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<p>Always been interested in your experimental setup for showing
beam-beam interactions <br>
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<p>do you have a description of exactly what you do show
interactions in a vacuum - how can you tell identical frequency
waves in closely spaced parallel beams apart if they d interact?</p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
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Dear folks,<br>
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For the last several years, we (Hudgins, Meulenberg, and
Penland) have been studying the interference effects of
identical-frequency waves. Using a thin optical flat as
a laser-beam splitter, it is possible to easily provide
closely-spaced parallel beams of coherent light that
appear to interact indefinitely (in vacuum, and even
down to the individual-photon level?).<br>
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Over the last year, in parallel with the forum discussions
of the photonic electron, the implications of this
interaction have been evolving. The first step was the
recognition that the two beams were equivalent to streams
of identical particles. Furthermore, depending on their
phase, the two beams acted as both bosons and fermions. In
their constructive interactions (as a Bose condensate?)
and destructive interactions (obeying the Pauli exclusion
principle?), they attracted each other when in phase and
appeared to repel one another when 180 degrees out of
phase. This observation (a phase dependence, perhaps
related to charge, as suggested by Penland) is beginning
to expand into explanations and hypotheses for many of the
laws (and tools) of physics.<br>
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Since many of this group believe that leptons are self-bound
photons, the proposed dual nature of photons, which is
dependent on a major characteristic of the wave nature of
light (phase), could be fundamental to the understanding of
much of physics. Despite being bosons, by definition,
photons are seen to have both bosonic and fermionic natures
in their interactions and, perhaps, within their very
nature. Another concept includes that of symmetry and
parity. Within a photon and its interactions, we can find
both symmetric and anti-symmetric conditions as well as
those of even and odd parity.<br>
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Thus, within the nature of a photon, we can find the physical
bases for much of the mathematics that is the basis of
theoretical physics. I believe that the macroscopic
observations, which have led to much of physics theory, can be
explained in the study of light and its interactions
(including those with itself). The reasons that this
observation is not obvious lie within our inability to 'see'
the interaction. First, light is not composed of point
particles. With the exception of a few manufactured cases,
photons are many wavelengths long (up to 1E8 cycles?). Only if
photons can interact (collectively, in time and/or space)
over a large percentage of these wavelengths will any effects
be noticeable without the aid of matter as a detector to sum
over many interactions. And, even then, it is mathematically
impossible to distinguish the effects of transmission
(non-interaction?) or reflection (interaction?) in the
coincidence of identical photons. Nevertheless, the fact that
the mathematics for identical particles is different from that
of identifiable particles gives us the precedent for looking
at this aspect of light.<br>
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The observation of particle (e.g., electron) interaction is
possible because the photons composing the particles have all of
their high-energy nodes collected in small enough regions for
their energy density to be sufficiently high to distort the
space in which they reside. The 'permanence' of these structures
depends on resonance, which provides and depends on a fixed
internal phase relationship. Thus, the particular interaction of
light with itself is reflected in the nature of matter.<br>
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<div>Neither the statement that "light interferes with light,"
nor the statement that "light does <u>not</u> interfere
with light," is completely correct. It is the combination of
these two statements, along with their exceptions and
understanding, that provides the basis for understanding the
physical universe. <br>
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<div>Andrew M.<br>
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