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<p>Chandra;</p>
<p>Your two oil drop experiment is a terrific idea. Two identical
currents (charges) moving in parallel attract <br>
</p>
<p>and all we have to do is have one of the astronauts do a Millican
oil drop experiment in the space lab , <br>
</p>
<p>but the we are moving at some 500km/sec through space that should
be enough to overcome Coulomb repulsion- my guess is we would see
nothing <br>
</p>
<p>But why?</p>
<p>wolf<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
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tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/2018 1:06 PM, Chip Akins wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Andre<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes. Exactly. Electrons have magnetic
fields which are caused by their spin. This also causes the
electron magnetic moment. But since the magnetic field falls
off with distance much faster than the electric field, we
sense the electric field for “stationary” electrons much more
than the magnetic fields. But at close distances these fields
have more force than the charge field.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chip<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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General
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>André Michaud<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To all.<br>
<br>
Just to ask a question.<br>
<br>
Nobody seems to be considering the "spin" of electron, nor
associating it to the magnetic field. <br>
<br>
How could two electrons unite in covalent bound by
antiparallel spin alignment to so easily form hydrogen
molecules despite their identical electric charges that
repell each other as a function of the inverse square
Coulomb force, if their spin was not related to really
existing magnetic fields that could associate in
antiparallel spin alignment as a function of the inverse
cube interaction law that was verified in the Kottler et
al experiment?<br>
---<br>
André Michaud<br>
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 20:02:11 +0000, "Roychoudhuri,
Chandra" wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Albrecht: Your
point is well taken. Not being expert in magnetism, I need
to spend more time on this issue. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">However, let me
pose a question to think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">If two electrons
are trapped in two side by side but separate Millikan oil
drops, the two electrons feel each other’s static E-field,
but no magnetic field. If the oil-drop chamber was given a
steady velocity, could Millikan have measured the presence
of a magnetic field due to the moving electrons
(“current”), which would have been dying out as the
chamber moved further away? This experiment can be
conceived in many different ways and can be executed.
Hence, this is not a pure “Gedanken” experiment. I am
sure, some equivalent experiment has been done by
somebody. Send me the reference, if you can find one. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Are two parallel
current carrying conductors deflecting magnetic needles
(undergraduate experiment) different from two independent
electrons moving parallel to each other?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">I have just
re-phrased Einstein’s example that you have given below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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General [<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
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moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I like very much what you
have written here. Particularly what you say about "time"
which physically means oscillations. That is what one
should keep in mind when thinking about relativity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">However in one point I have
to object. That is your judgement of the parameter</span>
<span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span>. <span
style="font-size:13.5pt">I think that it is a result from
the historical fact that magnetism was detected long time
earlier than electricity. So magnetism plays a great role
in our view of physics which does not reflect its role
there. We know since about 100 years that magnetism is not
a primary phenomenon but an apparent effect, a side effect
of the electric field which is caused by the finiteness of
c. If c would be infinite there would not be any
magnetism. This is given by the equation </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup> =
(1/ϵµ)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> which you
have mentioned. This equation should be better written as
</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ =
(1/c<sup>2</sup>ϵ)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">
to reflect this physical fact, the dependency of the
magnetism on c. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The symmetry between
electricity and magnetism is suggested by Maxwell's
equation. These equations are mathematically very elegant
and well usable in practice. But they do not reflect the
physical reality. Easiest visible is the fact that we have
electrical monopoles but no magnetic monopoles. Einstein
has described this fact by saying: Whenever an observer is
in a magnetic field, he can find a motion state so that
the magnetic field disappears. - This is as we know not
possible for an electric field.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think that we have
discussed this earlier. Do you remember?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.02.2018 um 00:00 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We nee</i><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">d a geometry in which both
space and time are curved back on themselves to
provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc
are self contained eigen states at each action quanta.
</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does
any of this suggest a tension field you might be
thinking about??”</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Yes, Wolf, we
need to model mathematically the “twists and turns” of
different intrinsic potential gradients embedded in CTF
(Complex Tension Field) to create stationary self-looped
oscillations (<b><i>field-particles</i></b>). Maxwell
achieved that for the propagating linear excitations
using his brilliant observations of using the double
differentiation – giving us the EM wave equation. We
need to find non-propagating (stationary – Newton’s
first law) self-looped oscillations – the in-phase ones
will be stable, others will “break apart” with different
life-times depending upon how far they are from the
in-phase closed-loop conditions. The successes of the
mathematical oscillatory dynamic model could be judged
by the number of predicted properties the theory can
find for the <b><i>field-particles,</i></b> which we
have measured so far. The physical CTF must remain
stationary holding 100% of the cosmic energy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">However, I
would not attempt to keep the primacy of Relativity by
trying to keep the Space-Time 4-D concept intact. If we
want to capture the ontological reality; we must imagine
and visualize the potential <b><i>foundational</i></b>
physical process and represent that with a set of
algebraic symbols and call them the primary parameters
of “different grades”. During constructing mathematical
theories, it is of prime importance to introduce
consciously this concept of “primary”, vs. “secondary”,
vs. “tertiary”, etc., physical parameters related to any
observable physical phenomenon. The physical parameter
that dictates the core existence of an entity in nature
should be considered as primary. However, it is not
going to be easy because of the complexities in the
different interaction processes – different parameters
take key role in transferring the energy in different
interactions. Besides, our ignorance is still
significantly broad compared to the “validated”
knowledge we have gathered about our universe. Here is a
glaring example. νλ = c = (1/ϵµ). If I am doing atomic
physics, ν is of primary importance because of the
quantum resonance with ν and the QM energy exchange rule
is “hν”. “λ” changes from medium to medium. If I am
doing Astrophysics, ϵ and µ for free space, are of
primary significance; even though people tend to use
“c”, while missing out the fundamental roles of ϵ and µ
as some of the core building blocks of the universe.
Funny thing is that the ϵ and µ of free space were
recognized well before Maxwell synthesized
Electromagnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">With this
background, I want underscore that the “running time,
“t” is of critical importance in our formulation of the
dynamic universe. And, yet “t’ is not a directly
measurable physical parameter of any object in this
universe. What we measure is really the frequency, or
its inverse, the oscillation periods of different
physical oscillators in this universe. So, frequency can
be dilated or contracted by controlling the ambient
physical parameter of the environment that surrounds and
INFLUENCES the oscillator. The running time cannot be
dilated or contracted; even though Minkowsky introduced
this “dilation” concept. This is the reason why I have
been pushing for the introduction in physics thinking
the Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology (IPM-E). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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General [<a
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Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Candra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">Let’s consider
your tension filed is a medium underlying the experience
of space composed of charge and mass density spread out in
the cross-section of a time loop.. Coordinate frame cells
of <i>small enough</i> sizes can be described by constant
enough mass and charge densities in each cell. For small
enough cells the mass and charge values concentrated at
their centers may be used in stead of the densities. The
resulting field of center values can take any pattern that
satisfies the extended dAlambert principle. Besides the
classic electro-magnetic Fem and gravito-inertial force
Fgi I postulate forces tat hold charge and mass together
Fcm, Fmc. This condition assures mass charge centers in
each cell appear at locations of balanced forces. Each
pattern which satisfies this condition represents a static
state of the loop in which the patterns are fixed for the
lifetime of the loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The Charge-Mass Separation Vector
and Equilibrium States</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">The physical
size of the space is its volume. The volume (Vol) of space
is the sum of the infinitesimal volumes dVol of each of
the cells composing that space “Vol = ∫<sub>all space</sub>
dVol”. These infinitesimal volumes are calculated from the
mass-charge density extensions in each cell when viewed
externally as shown in figure 4.3-3a . The physical volume
depends upon the mass charge separation pattern of the
equilibrium state the system being modeled exists in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In CAT the extension of a cell can be
calculated as follows. In each cell the distance between
the center of charge and mass is a vector d<b>ζ.</b> The
projection of this vector onto the degrees of freedom
directions available for the charge and mass to move in
the generalized coordinate space allows us to expansion
this vector as, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-1 <b>dζ =</b> dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙u<sub>t</sub></b>
+ dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙u<sub>x</sub> </b>+ dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙u<sub>y</sub>
</b>+ dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙u<sub>z</sub> +…</b> dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙u<sub>f</sub>
+…,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">where the <b>u<sub>f</sub></b>’s are
the unit vectors. A space limited to Cartesian 3-space is
characterized by three x,y,z directions, but CAT models a
generalized space that encompasses all sensor modalities
not only the optical ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The volume of a cell calculated from
the diagonal expansion vector “<b>dζ”</b> by multiplying
all non zero coefficients,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-2 dVol = dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙…∙</b>dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙…
.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The shape of this volume is determined
by the direction of the expansion vector which in turn is
determined by the direction and strength of forces pulling
the charge and mass apart. The direction of pull depends
upon the number of dimensions available in the generalized
coordinates of the media. The forces must be in
equilibrium but exact equilibrium pattern depends upon
which global loop equilibrium state “Ζ” the event being
modeled is in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the simplest equilibrium state the
masses and charges are collocated. This implies the
internal forward propagating in time forces F<sub>cm</sub>,F<sub>mc</sub>,
and backward propagating in time force F<sub>mc</sub>*,F<sub>cm</sub>*
are zero, and if there are no internal force pulling the
charges and masses together then sum of the remaining
exterior gravito-electric forces pulling the charge and
mass apart must separately be zero precisely at the
collocation point. A trivial condition that satisfies
these equations is when all forces are zero. In this case
there is no action in the media and no action for
expanding the coordinate frame defining a volume of space.
We are back to a formless blob of zero volume, where all
charges and masses are at the same point. This is the
absolute ground state of material, one level of something
above nothing. The big bang before the energy of action
flow is added. <o:p></o:p></p>
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exemplify the methods we consider an equilibrium state of
a single isolated cell whose only degree of freedom is the
time direction. This means the volume in all space
directions are infinitesimally small and the volume can be
considered a single line of extension “ΔVol = ΔT<sub>w</sub>
= ∫dζ<sub><span style="font-size:14.0pt">t</span></sub><span
style="font-size:14.0pt"> “ </span>along the time
direction as shown in the god’s eye perspective of figure
4.3-6. In this situation we can consider charges and
masses to be point particles. Forces as well as action can
only propagate along the material length of the line time
line represented in space as “Qw”. We now list the
sequence of changes that can propagate through around the
equilibrium positions indicated by numbers in parenthesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in">(1)<span
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The upper charge is
pushed from its equilibrium position (filled icon) forward
along the time line<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in">(2)<span
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>It exerts a force “Fem”
on the left charge pushing it forward while feeling a
reaction force “Fem*” that retards it back to its
equilibrium position<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in">(3)<span
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>While the left charge
is moved from equilibrium it exerts an internal “Fcm”
force on the bottom mass while feeling a reaction force
“Fcm*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in">(4)<span
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>While the bottom mass
is moved from equilibrium it exerts a force “Fgi” on the
right mass while feeling a reaction force “Fgi*” which
returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in">(5)<span
style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>While the right mass is
moved from equilibrium it exerts a force “Fmc” on the
upper charge while feeling a reaction force “Fmc*” which
returns it to equilibrium. We are now back to (1).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">If the system
is isolated there is no dissipation into other degrees of
freedom and the oscillation continues to move as a
compression wave around the “Qw” time line circumference
forever. The graph however is static and shows a fixed
amount of action indicated by the shaded arrows around the
time line. Motion in “block” models is produced by the
velocity of the observer or model operator as he moves
around the time line. From our god’s eye perspective an
action density is permanently painted on the clock dial
and thereby describes an total event. The last degree of
freedom events are rather trivial <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We need a geometry in which both space
and time are curved back on themselves to provide a donut
in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained
eigen states at each action quanta. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does any of this suggest a tension
field you might be thinking about??<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/24/2018 7:20 PM, Roychoudhuri,
Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Yes, I have submitted an essay.
FQXi has not sent the approval link yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Replacement of our SPIE conf.
Without a supporting infrastructure to replace
SPIE-like support, it is very difficult to manage. I
will try NSF during the last week of May. Do you want
to start negotiating with some out-of-box European
groups?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Re-starting afresh from the
bottom up is the only way to start re-building a
unified field theory. It is futile to force-fit whole
bunch of different theories that were structured
differently at different states of human cultural
epoch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Wolfgang Baer <<a
href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>>
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<p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just rereading your 2015 paper "Urgency of
evolution..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I love the sentiment " This is a good time to
start iteratively re-evaluating and restructuring
all the foundational postulates behind all the
working theories"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Did you write a paper for FQXi?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I sent one in <a
href="https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Is there any chance to get a replacement for the SPIE conference, one that would expand the questions </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">beyond the nature of light?</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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