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<p><font size="+1">Hi Wolf, and hi Chandra,<br>
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<p><font size="+1">comments and answers down in the text:</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 23.02.2018 um 05:28 schrieb Wolfgang
Baer:<br>
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<p>Albrecht:</p>
<p><font size="+1">"Whenever an observer is in a magnetic field,
he can find a motion state so that the magnetic field
disappears."</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">I've heard this many times but now that you
said it, and I'm no longer a student so I have time to wonder
, <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">there is a coil of wire in front of me I feel a
magnetic field exactly how would I move to make it disappear?
And what other forces would I experience to maintain that
motion?</font></p>
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<font size="+1">This may be explainable stepwise. In the first step
use a coil of wire with only one moving charge in it. Now have a
test charge at the side outside the coil. This test charge will
see the electrostatic force according to the Coulomb law, but
nothing more. If this test charge is not at rest but moving then
in the frame of the test charge nothing changes, Coulomb still
applies. But if an observer at rest measures the electrostatic
force between both in <u>his </u>frame, he will see a different
force acting on the test charge. This can be also calculated </font><font
size="+1">using the Lorentz transformation with respect to force</font><font
size="+1">. This difference is called "magnetism". If now the
observer moves with the test charge he will only see the
electrostatic force like the test charge itself does, so no
magnetism. <br>
If there in not only one charge in the coil but a lot of them,
there will be a superposition of all applying forces. Now an
observer who wants to escape the magnetic field will have to find
a new frame which takes into account this superposition. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">The electron velocity in a wire is quite low
and I can increase the current and keep the velocity the same
thus increase the magnetic field so if I rotate around the
center axis of the loop I can make the charges stand still and
there should be no magnetic field - maybe but now we have to
ask how do I measure the magnetic field to reach this
conclusion?<br>
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<font size="+1">A magnetic field is generally measured in the way
that the force on a charge is measured and the result is compared
to the expected Coulomb force. If there is an excess of force, it
is magnetism.</font><br>
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<p><font size="+1"> </font></p>
<p><font size="+1">well if I place another wire loop the electrons
in both wires move at the same velocity and by the argument
above they would not "see" the electrons in the other ring
moving but they would certainly feel a magnetic field and the
two loops would attract each other</font></p>
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<font size="+1">The electrons in one loop will of course "see" the
electrons in the other one. If both wires are overcharged with
electrons then there will be the repelling Coulomb force. But in
the normal case in practise the wires are electrically neutral.
And a current means that negative charges (here electrons) are
moving into one direction and positive charges (the corresponding
positive "holes" of charge) are moving into the other direction.
Now, what will a test electron notice which moves outside along
the wire? It will see the charges moving into the opposite
direction relativistically contracted, the co-moving ones not (or
precisely: extended). And so the test electron will see a
different density of charges (for the positive and negative ones)
and so a resulting field (which an electron at rest will not see).
The resulting force which is only noticeable by a moving test
charge is called magnetism. <br>
<br>
There is a video of Versitasium which shows this quite
illustrative:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0</a><br>
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<p><font size="+1">What am I missing?</font></p>
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<font size="+1">Was this understandable?<br>
Albrecht<br>
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<p><font size="+1">Wolf <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/2018 11:26 AM, Albrecht Giese
wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1">Chandra,</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">I like very much what you have written here.
Particularly what you say about "time" which physically
means oscillations. That is what one should keep in mind
when thinking about relativity.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">However in one point I have to object. That
is your judgement of the parameter</font> <span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span>. <font
size="+1">I think that it is a result from the historical
fact that magnetism was detected long time earlier than
electricity. So magnetism plays a great role in our view of
physics which does not reflect its role there. We know since
about 100 years that magnetism is not a primary phenomenon
but an apparent effect, a side effect of the electric field
which is caused by the finiteness of c. If c would be
infinite there would not be any magnetism. This is given by
the equation </font><font size="+1"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup> =
(1/ϵµ)</span> which you have mentioned. This equation
should be better written as </font><font size="+1"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span></font><font
size="+1"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> =
(1/</span></font><font size="+1"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"><font size="+1"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup></span></font>ϵ) </span>
to reflect this physical fact, the dependency of the
magnetism on c. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">The symmetry between electricity and
magnetism is suggested by Maxwell's equation. These
equations are mathematically very elegant and well usable in
practice. But they do not reflect the physical reality.
Easiest visible is the fact that we have electrical
monopoles but no magnetic monopoles. Einstein has described
this fact by saying: Whenever an observer is in a magnetic
field, he can find a motion state so that the magnetic field
disappears. - This is as we know not possible for an
electric field.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">I think that we have discussed this earlier.
Do you remember?<br>
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<p><font size="+1">Albrecht<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.02.2018 um 00:00 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We nee</i><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">d a geometry in which both
space and time are curved back on themselves to
provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc
are self contained eigen states at each action quanta.
<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does
any of this suggest a tension field you might be
thinking about??”<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Yes, Wolf, we
need to model mathematically the “twists and turns” of
different intrinsic potential gradients embedded in CTF
(Complex Tension Field) to create stationary self-looped
oscillations (<b><i>field-particles</i></b>). Maxwell
achieved that for the propagating linear excitations
using his brilliant observations of using the double
differentiation – giving us the EM wave equation. We
need to find non-propagating (stationary – Newton’s
first law) self-looped oscillations – the in-phase ones
will be stable, others will “break apart” with different
life-times depending upon how far they are from the
in-phase closed-loop conditions. The successes of the
mathematical oscillatory dynamic model could be judged
by the number of predicted properties the theory can
find for the <b><i>field-particles,</i></b> which we
have measured so far. The physical CTF must remain
stationary holding 100% of the cosmic energy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> However, I
would not attempt to keep the primacy of Relativity by
trying to keep the Space-Time 4-D concept intact. If we
want to capture the ontological reality; we must imagine
and visualize the potential <b><i>foundational</i></b>
physical process and represent that with a set of
algebraic symbols and call them the primary parameters
of “different grades”. During constructing mathematical
theories, it is of prime importance to introduce
consciously this concept of “primary”, vs. “secondary”,
vs. “tertiary”, etc., physical parameters related to any
observable physical phenomenon. The physical parameter
that dictates the core existence of an entity in nature
should be considered as primary. However, it is not
going to be easy because of the complexities in the
different interaction processes – different parameters
take key role in transferring the energy in different
interactions. Besides, our ignorance is still
significantly broad compared to the “validated”
knowledge we have gathered about our universe. Here is a
glaring example. νλ = c = (1/ϵµ). If I am doing atomic
physics, ν is of primary importance because of the
quantum resonance with ν and the QM energy exchange rule
is “hν”. “λ” changes from medium to medium. If I am
doing Astrophysics, ϵ and µ for free space, are of
primary significance; even though people tend to use
“c”, while missing out the fundamental roles of ϵ and µ
as some of the core building blocks of the universe.
Funny thing is that the ϵ and µ of free space were
recognized well before Maxwell synthesized
Electromagnetism.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> With this
background, I want underscore that the “running time,
“t” is of critical importance in our formulation of the
dynamic universe. And, yet “t’ is not a directly
measurable physical parameter of any object in this
universe. What we measure is really the frequency, or
its inverse, the oscillation periods of different
physical oscillators in this universe. So, frequency can
be dilated or contracted by controlling the ambient
physical parameter of the environment that surrounds and
INFLUENCES the oscillator. The running time cannot be
dilated or contracted; even though Minkowsky introduced
this “dilation” concept. This is the reason why I have
been pushing for the introduction in physics thinking
the Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology (IPM-E). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Candra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"> Let’s
consider your tension filed is a medium underlying the
experience of space composed of charge and mass density
spread out in the cross-section of a time loop..
Coordinate frame cells of <i>small enough</i> sizes can
be described by constant enough mass and charge densities
in each cell. For small enough cells the mass and charge
values concentrated at their centers may be used in stead
of the densities. The resulting field of center values can
take any pattern that satisfies the extended dAlambert
principle. Besides the classic electro-magnetic Fem and
gravito-inertial force Fgi I postulate forces tat hold
charge and mass together Fcm, Fmc. This condition assures
mass charge centers in each cell appear at locations of
balanced forces. Each pattern which satisfies this
condition represents a static state of the loop in which
the patterns are fixed for the lifetime of the loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The Charge-Mass Separation Vector
and Equilibrium States</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">The physical
size of the space is its volume. The volume (Vol) of
space is the sum of the infinitesimal volumes dVol of
each of the cells composing that space “Vol = ∫<sub>all
space</sub> dVol”. These infinitesimal volumes are
calculated from the mass-charge density extensions in each
cell when viewed externally as shown in figure 4.3-3a .
The physical volume depends upon the mass charge
separation pattern of the equilibrium state the system
being modeled exists in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In CAT the extension of a
cell can be calculated as follows. In each cell the
distance between the center of charge and mass is a vector
d<b>ζ.</b> The projection of this vector onto the degrees
of freedom directions available for the charge and mass to
move in the generalized coordinate space allows us to
expansion this vector as, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-1 <b>dζ =</b>
dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙u<sub>t</sub></b> + dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙u<sub>x</sub>
</b>+ dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙u<sub>y</sub> </b>+ dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙u<sub>z</sub>
+…</b> dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙u<sub>f</sub> +…,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b>where the <b>u<sub>f</sub></b>’s
are the unit vectors. A space limited to Cartesian 3-space
is characterized by three x,y,z directions, but CAT models
a generalized space that encompasses all sensor modalities
not only the optical ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The volume of a cell
calculated from the diagonal expansion vector “<b>dζ”</b>
by multiplying all non zero coefficients,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-2 dVol =
dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙…∙</b>dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙…
.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The shape of this volume is
determined by the direction of the expansion vector which
in turn is determined by the direction and strength of
forces pulling the charge and mass apart. The direction of
pull depends upon the number of dimensions available in
the generalized coordinates of the media. The forces must
be in equilibrium but exact equilibrium pattern depends
upon which global loop equilibrium state “Ζ” the event
being modeled is in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In the simplest equilibrium
state the masses and charges are collocated. This implies
the internal forward propagating in time forces F<sub>cm</sub>,F<sub>mc</sub>,
and backward propagating in time force F<sub>mc</sub>*,F<sub>cm</sub>*
are zero, and if there are no internal force pulling the
charges and masses together then sum of the remaining
exterior gravito-electric forces pulling the charge and
mass apart must separately be zero precisely at the
collocation point. A trivial condition that satisfies
these equations is when all forces are zero. In this case
there is no action in the media and no action for
expanding the coordinate frame defining a volume of space.
We are back to a formless blob of zero volume, where all
charges and masses are at the same point. This is the
absolute ground state of material, one level of something
above nothing. The big bang before the energy of action
flow is added. <o:p></o:p></p>
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direction as shown in the god’s eye perspective of figure
4.3-6. In this situation we can consider charges and
masses to be point particles. Forces as well as action can
only propagate along the material length of the line time
line represented in space as “Qw”. We now list the
sequence of changes that can propagate through around the
equilibrium positions indicated by numbers in parenthesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(1)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->The
upper charge is pushed from its equilibrium position
(filled icon) forward along the time line<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(2)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->It
exerts a force “Fem” on the left charge pushing it forward
while feeling a reaction force “Fem*” that retards it back
to its equilibrium position<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
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<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(3)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the left charge is moved from equilibrium it exerts an
internal “Fcm” force on the bottom mass while feeling a
reaction force “Fcm*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(4)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the bottom mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a
force “Fgi” on the right mass while feeling a reaction
force “Fgi*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(5)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the right mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a force
“Fmc” on the upper charge while feeling a reaction force
“Fmc*” which returns it to equilibrium. We are now back
to (1).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">If the system
is isolated there is no dissipation into other degrees of
freedom and the oscillation continues to move as a
compression wave around the “Qw” time line circumference
forever. The graph however is static and shows a fixed
amount of action indicated by the shaded arrows around the
time line. Motion in “block” models is produced by the
velocity of the observer or model operator as he moves
around the time line. From our god’s eye perspective an
action density is permanently painted on the clock dial
and thereby describes an total event. The last degree of
freedom events are rather trivial <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We need a geometry in which
both space and time are curved back on themselves to
provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are
self contained eigen states at each action quanta. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does any of this suggest a tension
field you might be thinking about??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/24/2018 7:20 PM, Roychoudhuri,
Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Yes, I have submitted an essay.
FQXi has not sent the approval link yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Replacement of our SPIE conf.
Without a supporting infrastructure to replace
SPIE-like support, it is very difficult to manage. I
will try NSF during the last week of May. Do you want
to start negotiating with some out-of-box European
groups? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Re-starting afresh from the
bottom up is the only way to start re-building a
unified field theory. It is futile to force-fit whole
bunch of different theories that were structured
differently at different states of human cultural
epoch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Wolfgang Baer <<a
href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just rereading your 2015 paper "Urgency of
evolution..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I love the sentiment " This is a good time to
start iteratively re-evaluating and restructuring
all the foundational postulates behind all the
working theories"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Did you write a paper for FQXi?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I sent one in <a
href="https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Is there any chance to get a replacement for the SPIE conference, one that would expand the questions <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">beyond the nature of light?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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