<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
color:black;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
color:black;}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
font-family:Consolas;
color:black;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;
color:black;}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle22
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle23
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:black;}
span.EmailStyle24
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:210265128;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:1952207248 397949086 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-text:"\(%1\)";
mso-level-tab-stop:.75in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
margin-left:.75in;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-tab-stop:1.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level3
{mso-level-tab-stop:1.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level4
{mso-level-tab-stop:2.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level5
{mso-level-tab-stop:2.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level6
{mso-level-tab-stop:3.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level7
{mso-level-tab-stop:3.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level8
{mso-level-tab-stop:4.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level9
{mso-level-tab-stop:4.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1027" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Chip, and also Wolf:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> To me, CTF, as a tension field, holds 100% of the cosmic energy. Everything else is its “excitations”, or “deformations”!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> Particles are self-looped excitations, functionally non-linear, as they do not in general pass through each other, rather interact with wide ranges of interaction cross-sections.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> EM waves are perpetually propagating excitations. They are non-interacting linear excitations. They pass through each other.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> Forces are secondary potential gradients generated by the various self-looped oscillations around themselves. “Forces’ are not due to “exchange particles”! They “fall towards” or “repelled
by” the various potential gradients generated by themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> All particle-properties are emergent properties out of their complex formative internal motions of CTF-tension characteristics. Recall that a Gamma wave packet (no charge or mass) can collide
with heavy nucleus and generate electron-positron pair with opposite charges and some inertia (“mass”). Gamma is a linear high frequency undulation of the CTF. So, charge and mass must be some emergent properties out of the dynamic motions of the CTF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> I have attached my thinking on CTF during 2013.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"> CTF guides us to model natural phenomena much more coherently than the current ad hoc theories.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> General [mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chip Akins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 25, 2018 9:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion' <general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Wolf<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think you are very close to right in the analysis below, with one exception.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It seems the CTF is the source of charge. And that charge is created by energy reacting with the CTF. And that the CTF and energy can also create mass. But neither exist in empty space unless energy is present.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chip<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 24, 2018 10:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>; Albrecht Giese <<a href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think I understand your arguments since this is what is generally taught, however I have always been uncomfortable with the statements involving “observer”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So I question your statement “<span style="font-size:13.5pt">The different amount seen by the observer can be calculated by the use of the force-related Lorentz transformation - from the frame of the electrons to the frame of the observer.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now ancient experiments discovered that there are two reciprocal forces between charges. The relative distance R gives the Coulomb force F<sub>E</sub> and the relative velocity gives the Magnetic force F<sub>B
</sub><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="208" height="95" style="width:2.1666in;height:.993in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.gif@01D3AE52.13DE3F80"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now if these are independent entities whose existence does not depend upon any observation made by the observer (until we get to quantum measurements) .
<i>This means the physics is fixed </i>and so are the parameters. Any measurement made by any coordinate frame when properly processed for its own distortions will result in the same parameters, so R,V, F<sub>B</sub>, F<sub>E</sub><sup>
</sup>and yes the speed of light must be constant. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> If the measurement results differ either we do not have objective measurement independent reality or else there is an unaccounted artifact in the measurement process.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I and QM claims there is no objective measurement independent reality.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Lorenz assumed the coordinate frame dilates and shrinks so that when raw measurements are made and no correction is applied we may not observe a magnetic field but instead a different Coulomb field so that the actual result on the object
measured remains the same only the names of the causes have been changed. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now consider looking at the same two charges from an arbitrary coordinate frame. then in that frame the two charges will have wo velocities V1 and V2 but there will always be a difference V
<o:p></o:p></p>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" align="left">
<tbody>
<tr style="height:12.0pt">
<td width="89" style="width:66.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:12.0pt"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"></td>
<td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:1.5pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly">
<img border="0" width="258" height="115" style="width:2.6875in;height:1.2013in" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.gif@01D3AE52.13DE3F80"><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><sup> </sup><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><sup> </sup><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><sup> </sup><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><sup> </sup><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><sup> </sup><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I contend that it does not matter what frame you chose cannot get rid of the relative velocity. The only way you can get rid of the magnetic field is if there was no relative velocity in the first palace. And there never was a magnetic
field in the physics. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore your further conclusion “<span style="font-size:13.5pt">As soon as an observer moves with one charge, i.e. he is at rest with respect to the frame of one of the charges, then there is no magnetic field for him.”
</span>Is only true if there was no magnetic field in the first place, a very special case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We must be very careful not to confuse the actual physics in a situation with the way we look at it.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If we apply the same analysis to the Michelson Morley experiment I think we will also find that there never was a fringe shift in the physics. The physics states charges interact with other charges, basta. Introducing fields and then attributing
what has always been a summation of many charge effects on one test charge onto a property of empty space is simply a convenient mathematical trick that hides the physical reality.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I further submit this as an argument that mass and charge are fundamental physics and if there is to be a CTF it is the tension that holds mass and charge together when electro-magentic forces operating on charge densities and gravito-inertial
forces operating on mass densities are not balanced and pulls mass and charge apart. I further submit the the resulting fluctuations in the mass-charge densities leads to CTF propagating patterns that are an ontologically defensible interpretation of Schroedingers
Wave function.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tell me why I’m wrong<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wolf <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/23/2018 6:51 AM, Albrecht Giese wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If two electrons move side by side, the main force between them is of course the electrostatic one. But there is an additional contribution to the force which is measured in the frame of an observer at rest (like the one of
Millikan). In the frame of the moving electrons (maybe they belong to the same frame) there is only the electrostatic force, true. The different amount seen by the observer can be calculated by the use of the force-related Lorentz transformation - from the
frame of the electrons to the frame of the observer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If the oil-drop chamber is in steady motion this has primarily no influence. Important is the motion state of the observer. If the observer is at rest with respect to the moving oil-drops (and so of the electrons), he will
notice a contribution of magnetism. Any motion of the chamber does not matter for this fact.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">In general magnetism is visible for an observer who is in motion with respect to both charges under consideration. As soon as an observer moves with one charge, i.e. he is at rest with respect to the frame of one of the charges,
then there is no magnetic field for him. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Your example of two compass needles is a more complex one even if it does not look so. To treat this case correctly we have to take into account the cause of the magnetism of the needle, that means of the circling charges in
the atoms (in Fe). If we would do this then - seen from our own frame - both groups of charges are moving, the charges in the conductor and also the charges in the needle's atoms. So as both are moving with respect to the observer, this is the cause for a
magnetic field between both objects. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 22.02.2018 um 21:02 schrieb Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Albrecht: Your point is well taken. Not being expert in magnetism, I need to spend more time on this issue.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">However, let me pose a question to think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">If two electrons are trapped in two side by side but separate Millikan oil drops, the two electrons feel each other’s static E-field, but no magnetic field. If the oil-drop chamber was given
a steady velocity, could Millikan have measured the presence of a magnetic field due to the moving electrons (“current”), which would have been dying out as the chamber moved further away? This experiment can be conceived in many different ways and can be
executed. Hence, this is not a pure “Gedanken” experiment. I am sure, some equivalent experiment has been done by somebody. Send me the reference, if you can find one.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Are two parallel current carrying conductors deflecting magnetic needles (undergraduate experiment) different from two independent electrons moving parallel to each other?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">I have just re-phrased Einstein’s example that you have given below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I like very much what you have written here. Particularly what you say about "time" which physically means oscillations. That is what one should keep in mind when thinking about relativity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">However in one point I have to object. That is your judgement of the parameter</span>
<span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span>. <span style="font-size:13.5pt">
I think that it is a result from the historical fact that magnetism was detected long time earlier than electricity. So magnetism plays a great role in our view of physics which does not reflect its role there. We know since about 100 years that magnetism is
not a primary phenomenon but an apparent effect, a side effect of the electric field which is caused by the finiteness of c. If c would be infinite there would not be any magnetism. This is given by the equation
</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup> = (1/ϵµ)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> which you have mentioned. This equation should be better written as
</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ = (1/c<sup>2</sup>ϵ) </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> to reflect this physical fact, the dependency of the magnetism on c.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The symmetry between electricity and magnetism is suggested by Maxwell's equation. These equations are mathematically very elegant and well usable in practice. But they do not reflect the physical reality. Easiest visible is
the fact that we have electrical monopoles but no magnetic monopoles. Einstein has described this fact by saying: Whenever an observer is in a magnetic field, he can find a motion state so that the magnetic field disappears. - This is as we know not possible
for an electric field.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think that we have discussed this earlier. Do you remember?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.02.2018 um 00:00 schrieb Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We nee</i><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">d a geometry in which both space and time are curved back on themselves to provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained eigen states at each action quanta.
</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does any of this suggest a tension field you might be thinking about??”</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Yes, Wolf, we need to model mathematically the “twists and turns” of different intrinsic potential gradients embedded in CTF (Complex Tension Field) to create stationary self-looped oscillations
(<b><i>field-particles</i></b>). Maxwell achieved that for the propagating linear excitations using his brilliant observations of using the double differentiation – giving us the EM wave equation. We need to find non-propagating (stationary – Newton’s first
law) self-looped oscillations – the in-phase ones will be stable, others will “break apart” with different life-times depending upon how far they are from the in-phase closed-loop conditions. The successes of the mathematical oscillatory dynamic model could
be judged by the number of predicted properties the theory can find for the <b><i>field-particles,</i></b> which we have measured so far. The physical CTF must remain stationary holding 100% of the cosmic energy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> However, I would not attempt to keep the primacy of Relativity by trying to keep the Space-Time 4-D concept intact. If we want to capture the ontological reality; we must imagine and visualize
the potential <b><i>foundational</i></b> physical process and represent that with a set of algebraic symbols and call them the primary parameters of “different grades”. During constructing mathematical theories, it is of prime importance to introduce consciously
this concept of “primary”, vs. “secondary”, vs. “tertiary”, etc., physical parameters related to any observable physical phenomenon. The physical parameter that dictates the core existence of an entity in nature should be considered as primary. However, it
is not going to be easy because of the complexities in the different interaction processes – different parameters take key role in transferring the energy in different interactions. Besides, our ignorance is still significantly broad compared to the “validated”
knowledge we have gathered about our universe. Here is a glaring example. νλ = c = (1/ϵµ). If I am doing atomic physics, ν is of primary importance because of the quantum resonance with ν and the QM energy exchange rule is “hν”. “λ” changes from medium to
medium. If I am doing Astrophysics, ϵ and µ for free space, are of primary significance; even though people tend to use “c”, while missing out the fundamental roles of ϵ and µ as some of the core building blocks of the universe. Funny thing is that the ϵ and
µ of free space were recognized well before Maxwell synthesized Electromagnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> With this background, I want underscore that the “running time, “t” is of critical importance in our formulation of the dynamic universe. And, yet “t’ is not a directly measurable physical
parameter of any object in this universe. What we measure is really the frequency, or its inverse, the oscillation periods of different physical oscillators in this universe. So, frequency can be dilated or contracted by controlling the ambient physical parameter
of the environment that surrounds and INFLUENCES the oscillator. The running time cannot be dilated or contracted; even though Minkowsky introduced this “dilation” concept. This is the reason why I have been pushing for the introduction in physics thinking
the Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology (IPM-E). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> General [<a href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Candra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"> Let’s consider your tension filed is a medium underlying the experience of space composed of charge and mass density spread out in the cross-section of a time loop.. Coordinate frame cells of
<i>small enough</i> sizes can be described by constant enough mass and charge densities in each cell. For small enough cells the mass and charge values concentrated at their centers may be used in stead of the densities. The resulting field of center values
can take any pattern that satisfies the extended dAlambert principle. Besides the classic electro-magnetic Fem and gravito-inertial force Fgi I postulate forces tat hold charge and mass together Fcm, Fmc. This condition assures mass charge centers in each
cell appear at locations of balanced forces. Each pattern which satisfies this condition represents a static state of the loop in which the patterns are fixed for the lifetime of the loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The Charge-Mass Separation Vector and Equilibrium States</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">The physical size of the space is its volume. The volume (Vol) of space is the sum of the infinitesimal volumes dVol of each of the cells composing that space “Vol = ∫<sub>all space</sub> dVol”. These infinitesimal
volumes are calculated from the mass-charge density extensions in each cell when viewed externally as shown in figure 4.3-3a . The physical volume depends upon the mass charge separation pattern of the equilibrium state the system being modeled exists in.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In CAT the extension of a cell can be calculated as follows. In each cell the distance between the center of charge and mass is a vector d<b>ζ.</b> The projection of this vector onto the degrees of freedom directions available
for the charge and mass to move in the generalized coordinate space allows us to expansion this vector as,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-1 <b>dζ =</b> dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙u<sub>t</sub></b> + dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙u<sub>x</sub>
</b>+ dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙u<sub>y</sub> </b>+ dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙u<sub>z</sub> +…</b> dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙u<sub>f</sub> +…,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b>where the <b>u<sub>f</sub></b>’s are the unit vectors. A space limited to Cartesian 3-space is characterized by three x,y,z directions, but CAT models a generalized space that encompasses all sensor modalities not only
the optical ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The volume of a cell calculated from the diagonal expansion vector “<b>dζ”</b> by multiplying all non zero coefficients,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-2 dVol = dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙…∙</b>dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙… .</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The shape of this volume is determined by the direction of the expansion vector which in turn is determined by the direction and strength of forces pulling the charge and mass apart. The direction of pull depends upon the number
of dimensions available in the generalized coordinates of the media. The forces must be in equilibrium but exact equilibrium pattern depends upon which global loop equilibrium state “Ζ” the event being modeled is in.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In the simplest equilibrium state the masses and charges are collocated. This implies the internal forward propagating in time forces F<sub>cm</sub>,F<sub>mc</sub>, and backward propagating in time force F<sub>mc</sub>*,F<sub>cm</sub>*
are zero, and if there are no internal force pulling the charges and masses together then sum of the remaining exterior gravito-electric forces pulling the charge and mass apart must separately be zero precisely at the collocation point. A trivial condition
that satisfies these equations is when all forces are zero. In this case there is no action in the media and no action for expanding the coordinate frame defining a volume of space. We are back to a formless blob of zero volume, where all charges and masses
are at the same point. This is the absolute ground state of material, one level of something above nothing. The big bang before the energy of action flow is added.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f">
<v:stroke joinstyle="miter" />
<v:formulas>
<v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0" />
<v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0" />
<v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1" />
<v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2" />
<v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth" />
<v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight" />
<v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1" />
<v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2" />
<v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth" />
<v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0" />
<v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight" />
<v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0" />
</v:formulas>
<v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect" />
<o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t" />
</v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_s1026" type="#_x0000_t75" alt="" style='position:absolute;left:0;text-align:left;margin-left:0;margin-top:0;width:190.5pt;height:187.5pt;z-index:-251658752;mso-wrap-distance-left:0;mso-wrap-distance-top:0;mso-wrap-distance-right:0;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:0;mso-position-horizontal:left;mso-position-horizontal-relative:text;mso-position-vertical-relative:line' o:allowoverlap="f">
<v:imagedata src="cid:image004.gif@01D3AE52.13DE3F80" o:title="part7.D47F3D36" />
<w:wrap type="square"/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width="254" height="250" style="width:2.6458in;height:2.6041in" src="cid:image004.gif@01D3AE52.13DE3F80" align="left" v:shapes="_x0000_s1026"><![endif]>To
exemplify the methods we consider an equilibrium state of a single isolated cell whose only degree of freedom is the time direction. This means the volume in all space directions are infinitesimally small and the volume can be considered a single line of extension
“ΔVol = ΔT<sub>w</sub> = ∫dζ<sub><span style="font-size:14.0pt">t</span></sub><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> “
</span>along the time direction as shown in the god’s eye perspective of figure 4.3-6. In this situation we can consider charges and masses to be point particles. Forces as well as action can only propagate along the material length of the line time line represented
in space as “Qw”. We now list the sequence of changes that can propagate through around the equilibrium positions indicated by numbers in parenthesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>The upper charge is pushed from its equilibrium position (filled icon) forward along the time line<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>It exerts a force “Fem” on the left charge pushing it forward while feeling a reaction force “Fem*” that retards it back to its equilibrium position<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(3)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>While the left charge is moved from equilibrium it exerts an internal “Fcm” force on the bottom mass while feeling a reaction force “Fcm*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(4)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>While the bottom mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a force “Fgi” on the right mass while feeling a reaction force “Fgi*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(5)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>While the right mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a force “Fmc” on the upper charge while feeling a reaction force “Fmc*” which returns it to equilibrium. We are now back to (1).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">If the system is isolated there is no dissipation into other degrees of freedom and the oscillation continues to move as a compression wave around the “Qw” time line circumference forever. The graph however is static
and shows a fixed amount of action indicated by the shaded arrows around the time line. Motion in “block” models is produced by the velocity of the observer or model operator as he moves around the time line. From our god’s eye perspective an action density
is permanently painted on the clock dial and thereby describes an total event. The last degree of freedom events are rather trivial
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We need a geometry in which both space and time are curved back on themselves to provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained eigen states at each action quanta.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does any of this suggest a tension field you might be thinking about??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/24/2018 7:20 PM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Yes, I have submitted an essay. FQXi has not sent the approval link yet.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Replacement of our SPIE conf. Without a supporting infrastructure to replace SPIE-like support, it is very difficult to manage. I will try NSF during the last week of May. Do you want to start negotiating with some out-of-box European
groups? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. Re-starting afresh from the bottom up is the only way to start re-building a unified field theory. It is futile to force-fit whole bunch of different theories that were structured differently at different states of human cultural epoch.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Wolfgang Baer <<a href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just rereading your 2015 paper "Urgency of evolution..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I love the sentiment " This is a good time to start iteratively re-evaluating and restructuring all the foundational postulates behind all the working theories"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Did you write a paper for FQXi?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I sent one in <a href="https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043">https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Is there any chance to get a replacement for the SPIE conference, one that would expand the questions </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">beyond the nature of light?</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at
<a href="mailto:chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu">chandra.roychoudhuri@uconn.edu</a><br>
<a href="<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/chandra.roychoudhuri%40uconn.edu?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/chandra.roychoudhuri%40uconn.edu?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br>
Click here to unsubscribe<br>
</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:Wolf@nascentinc.com">Wolf@nascentinc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href=<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/wolf%40nascentinc.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/wolf%40nascentinc.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Click here to unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre></a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href=<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/phys%40a-giese.de?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/phys%40a-giese.de?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Click here to unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre></a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:phys@a-giese.de">phys@a-giese.de</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href=<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/phys%40a-giese.de?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/phys%40a-giese.de?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Click here to unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre></a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:Wolf@nascentinc.com">Wolf@nascentinc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href=<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/wolf%40nascentinc.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">"http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/wolf%40nascentinc.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"</a>><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Click here to unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre></a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>