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<p>Wolf,</p>
<p>my comments and explanations in the text below.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font size="-1">Am 25.02.2018 um 05:26
schrieb Wolfgang Baer:</font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Albrecht:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think I understand your arguments since
this is what is generally taught, however I have always been
uncomfortable with the statements involving “observer”.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So I question your statement “<span
style="font-size:13.5pt">The different amount seen by the
observer can be calculated by the use of the force-related
Lorentz transformation - from the frame of the electrons to
the frame of the observer.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now ancient experiments discovered that there
are two reciprocal forces between charges. The relative distance
R gives the Coulomb force F<sub>E</sub> and the relative
velocity gives the Magnetic force F<sub>B </sub></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now if these are independent entities whose
existence does not depend upon any observation made by the
observer (until we get to quantum measurements) . <i
style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">This means the physics is
fixed </i>and so are the parameters. Any measurement made by
any coordinate frame when properly processed for its own
distortions will result in the same parameters, so R,V, F<sub>B</sub>,
F<sub>E</sub><sup> </sup>and yes the speed of light must be
constant. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>If
the measurement results differ either we do not have objective
measurement independent reality or else there is an unaccounted
artifact in the measurement process.</p>
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<font size="-1">There is an error in your above arguments. The
relative velocity between charges does NOT determine the magnetic
field. But the magnetic field depends on the relative velocity
between the observer and the one charge and the observer and the
other charge. Where "observer" means the measuring tool.<br>
<br>
The entities are not independent in so far as any observer will
see them in a different way. That is not a consequence of quantum
mechanics but very simply the consequence of the fact that in a
moving system the tools change (like rulers contract and clocks
are slowed down) and so their measurement results differ from a
tool measuring while being at rest. This is the reason that we
need a Lorentz transformation to compare physical entities in one
moving frame to entities in another moving frame.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I and QM claims there is no objective
measurement independent reality. </p>
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<font size="-1">That may be the case but has nothing to do with our
discussion here. </font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lorenz assumed the coordinate frame dilates
and shrinks so that when raw measurements are made and no
correction is applied we may not<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>observe a magnetic field but instead a different Coulomb
field so that the actual result on the object measured remains
the same only the names of the causes have been changed. </p>
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<font size="-1">You are permanently referring to coordinate frames.
But we are treating here physical facts and not mathematical ones.
So coordinates should be omitted as an argument as I have proposed
it earlier. </font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now consider looking at the same two charges
from an arbitrary coordinate frame. then in that frame the two
charges will have wo velocities V1 and V2 but there will always
be a difference V </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I contend that it does not matter what frame
you chose cannot get rid of the relative velocity. The only way
you can get rid of the magnetic field is if there was no
relative velocity in the first palace. And there never was a
magnetic field in the physics. </p>
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<font size="-1">As soon as the observer moves in the same frame,
i.e. with the same speed vector as one of the charges, he does not
see a magnetic field. In the deduction of the magnetic field which
I have attached (from a talk at a conference last year) the
magnetic force is defined by the equation:</font><br>
<img src="cid:part3.864B71B3.08903409@a-giese.de" alt=""><br>
<font size="-1">where v and u are the speeds of two charges, q1 and
q2, , with respect to the observer. y is the distance and gamma
the Lorentz factor in the set up shown.</font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore your further conclusion “<span
style="font-size: 13.5pt">As soon as an observer moves with
one charge, i.e. he is at rest with respect to the frame of
one of the charges, then there is no magnetic field for him.”
</span>Is only true if there was no magnetic field in the first
place, a very special case.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We must be very careful not to confuse the
actual physics in a situation with the way we look at it. </p>
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<font size="-1">I guess that you know the Coriolis force. This force
is somewhat similar to magnetism. It is in effect for one observer
but not for another one depending on the observer's motion. And
there is nothing mysterious about it, and also quantum mechanics
is not needed for an explanation.<br>
<br>
In your logic you would have to say: If there is no Coriolis force
then there is no inertial mass. But that is clearly not the case.</font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we apply the same analysis to the
Michelson Morley experiment I think we will also find that there
never was a fringe shift in the physics. The physics states
charges interact with other charges, basta. Introducing fields
and then attributing what has always been a summation of many
charge effects on one test charge onto a property of empty space
is simply a convenient mathematical trick that hides the
physical reality.</p>
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<font size="-1">The MM experiment is easily explained by the fact
that there is contraction in the direction of motion. Nothing more
is needed to explain the null-result. In the view of Einstein
space contracts and in the view of Lorentz the apparatus contracts
as the internal fields contract. And the latter is a known
phenomenon in physics.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I further submit this as an argument that
mass and charge are fundamental physics and if there is to be a
CTF it is the tension that holds mass and charge together when
electro-magentic forces operating on charge densities and
gravito-inertial forces operating on mass densities are not
balanced and pulls mass and charge apart. I further submit the
the resulting fluctuations in the mass-charge densities leads to
CTF propagating patterns that are an ontologically defensible
interpretation of Schroedingers Wave function.<br>
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<font size="-1">An indication that mass is not fundamental is the
fact that mass can be converted into energy. On the other hand
charge cannot be converted into energy; this can be taken as an
argument that it is fundamental.<br>
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<font size="-1">Anything still controversial? Then please explain.<br>
Albrecht</font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tell me why I’m wrong</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wolf </p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
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tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/23/2018 6:51 AM, Albrecht Giese
wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1">Chandra:</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">If two electrons move side by side, the main
force between them is of course the electrostatic one. But
there is an additional contribution to the force which is
measured in the frame of an observer at rest (like the one
of Millikan). In the frame of the moving electrons (maybe
they belong to the same frame) there is only the
electrostatic force, true. The different amount seen by the
observer can be calculated by the use of the force-related
Lorentz transformation - from the frame of the electrons to
the frame of the observer.<br>
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<p><font size="+1">If the oil-drop chamber is in steady motion
this has primarily no influence. Important is the motion
state of the observer. If the observer is at rest with
respect to the moving oil-drops (and so of the electrons),
he will notice a contribution of magnetism. Any motion of
the chamber does not matter for this fact.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">In general magnetism is visible for an
observer who is in motion with respect to both charges under
consideration. As soon as an observer moves with one charge,
i.e. he is at rest with respect to the frame of one of the
charges, then there is no magnetic field for him. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Your example of two compass needles is a more
complex one even if it does not look so. To treat this case
correctly we have to take into account the cause of the
magnetism of the needle, that means of the circling charges
in the atoms (in Fe). If we would do this then - seen from
our own frame - both groups of charges are moving, the
charges in the conductor and also the charges in the
needle's atoms. So as both are moving with respect to the
observer, this is the cause for a magnetic field between
both objects. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">Albrecht<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.02.2018 um 21:02 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Albrecht: Your
point is well taken. Not being expert in magnetism, I
need to spend more time on this issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">However, let me
pose a question to think.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">If two electrons
are trapped in two side by side but separate Millikan
oil drops, the two electrons feel each other’s static
E-field, but no magnetic field. If the oil-drop chamber
was given a steady velocity, could Millikan have
measured the presence of a magnetic field due to the
moving electrons (“current”), which would have been
dying out as the chamber moved further away? This
experiment can be conceived in many different ways and
can be executed. Hence, this is not a pure “Gedanken”
experiment. I am sure, some equivalent experiment has
been done by somebody. Send me the reference, if you can
find one. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Are two parallel
current carrying conductors deflecting magnetic needles
(undergraduate experiment) different from two
independent electrons moving parallel to each other?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">I have just
re-phrased Einstein’s example that you have given below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#0A2A92">Chandra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I like very much what you
have written here. Particularly what you say about
"time" which physically means oscillations. That is what
one should keep in mind when thinking about relativity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">However in one point I
have to object. That is your judgement of the parameter</span>
<span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span>.
<span style="font-size:13.5pt"> I think that it is a
result from the historical fact that magnetism was
detected long time earlier than electricity. So
magnetism plays a great role in our view of physics
which does not reflect its role there. We know since
about 100 years that magnetism is not a primary
phenomenon but an apparent effect, a side effect of the
electric field which is caused by the finiteness of c.
If c would be infinite there would not be any magnetism.
This is given by the equation </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup>
= (1/ϵµ)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> which you
have mentioned. This equation should be better written
as </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ = (1/c<sup>2</sup>ϵ) </span><span
style="font-size:13.5pt"> to reflect this physical fact,
the dependency of the magnetism on c. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The symmetry between
electricity and magnetism is suggested by Maxwell's
equation. These equations are mathematically very
elegant and well usable in practice. But they do not
reflect the physical reality. Easiest visible is the
fact that we have electrical monopoles but no magnetic
monopoles. Einstein has described this fact by saying:
Whenever an observer is in a magnetic field, he can find
a motion state so that the magnetic field disappears. -
This is as we know not possible for an electric field.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think that we have
discussed this earlier. Do you remember?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.02.2018 um 00:00 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We nee</i><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">d a geometry in which both
space and time are curved back on themselves to
provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi,
Fcm,Fmc are self contained eigen states at each
action quanta. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does
any of this suggest a tension field you might be
thinking about??”</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Yes, Wolf,
we need to model mathematically the “twists and turns”
of different intrinsic potential gradients embedded in
CTF (Complex Tension Field) to create stationary
self-looped oscillations (<b><i>field-particles</i></b>).
Maxwell achieved that for the propagating linear
excitations using his brilliant observations of using
the double differentiation – giving us the EM wave
equation. We need to find non-propagating (stationary
– Newton’s first law) self-looped oscillations – the
in-phase ones will be stable, others will “break
apart” with different life-times depending upon how
far they are from the in-phase closed-loop conditions.
The successes of the mathematical oscillatory dynamic
model could be judged by the number of predicted
properties the theory can find for the <b><i>field-particles,</i></b>
which we have measured so far. The physical CTF must
remain stationary holding 100% of the cosmic energy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> However,
I would not attempt to keep the primacy of Relativity
by trying to keep the Space-Time 4-D concept intact.
If we want to capture the ontological reality; we must
imagine and visualize the potential <b><i>foundational</i></b>
physical process and represent that with a set of
algebraic symbols and call them the primary parameters
of “different grades”. During constructing
mathematical theories, it is of prime importance to
introduce consciously this concept of “primary”, vs.
“secondary”, vs. “tertiary”, etc., physical parameters
related to any observable physical phenomenon. The
physical parameter that dictates the core existence of
an entity in nature should be considered as primary.
However, it is not going to be easy because of the
complexities in the different interaction processes –
different parameters take key role in transferring the
energy in different interactions. Besides, our
ignorance is still significantly broad compared to the
“validated” knowledge we have gathered about our
universe. Here is a glaring example. νλ = c = (1/ϵµ).
If I am doing atomic physics, ν is of primary
importance because of the quantum resonance with ν and
the QM energy exchange rule is “hν”. “λ” changes
from medium to medium. If I am doing Astrophysics, ϵ
and µ for free space, are of primary significance;
even though people tend to use “c”, while missing out
the fundamental roles of ϵ and µ as some of the core
building blocks of the universe. Funny thing is that
the ϵ and µ of free space were recognized well before
Maxwell synthesized Electromagnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> With
this background, I want underscore that the “running
time, “t” is of critical importance in our formulation
of the dynamic universe. And, yet “t’ is not a
directly measurable physical parameter of any object
in this universe. What we measure is really the
frequency, or its inverse, the oscillation periods of
different physical oscillators in this universe. So,
frequency can be dilated or contracted by controlling
the ambient physical parameter of the environment that
surrounds and INFLUENCES the oscillator. The running
time cannot be dilated or contracted; even though
Minkowsky introduced this “dilation” concept. This is
the reason why I have been pushing for the
introduction in physics thinking the Interaction
Process Mapping Epistemology (IPM-E). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General [<a
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational
questions Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Candra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"> Let’s
consider your tension filed is a medium underlying the
experience of space composed of charge and mass density
spread out in the cross-section of a time loop..
Coordinate frame cells of <i>small enough</i> sizes can
be described by constant enough mass and charge
densities in each cell. For small enough cells the mass
and charge values concentrated at their centers may be
used in stead of the densities. The resulting field of
center values can take any pattern that satisfies the
extended dAlambert principle. Besides the classic
electro-magnetic Fem and gravito-inertial force Fgi I
postulate forces tat hold charge and mass together Fcm,
Fmc. This condition assures mass charge centers in each
cell appear at locations of balanced forces. Each
pattern which satisfies this condition represents a
static state of the loop in which the patterns are fixed
for the lifetime of the loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The Charge-Mass Separation Vector
and Equilibrium States</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">The physical
size of the space is its volume. The volume (Vol) of
space is the sum of the infinitesimal volumes dVol of
each of the cells composing that space “Vol = ∫<sub>all
space</sub> dVol”. These infinitesimal volumes are
calculated from the mass-charge density extensions in
each cell when viewed externally as shown in figure
4.3-3a . The physical volume depends upon the mass
charge separation pattern of the equilibrium state the
system being modeled exists in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In CAT the extension of a
cell can be calculated as follows. In each cell the
distance between the center of charge and mass is a
vector d<b>ζ.</b> The projection of this vector onto the
degrees of freedom directions available for the charge
and mass to move in the generalized coordinate space
allows us to expansion this vector as, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-1 <b>dζ
=</b> dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙u<sub>t</sub></b> + dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙u<sub>x</sub>
</b>+ dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙u<sub>y</sub> </b>+ dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙u<sub>z</sub>
+…</b> dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙u<sub>f</sub> +…,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b>where the <b>u<sub>f</sub></b>’s
are the unit vectors. A space limited to Cartesian
3-space is characterized by three x,y,z directions, but
CAT models a generalized space that encompasses all
sensor modalities not only the optical ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The volume of a cell
calculated from the diagonal expansion vector “<b>dζ”</b>
by multiplying all non zero coefficients,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-2 dVol =
dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙…∙</b>dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙…
.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The shape of this volume
is determined by the direction of the expansion vector
which in turn is determined by the direction and
strength of forces pulling the charge and mass apart.
The direction of pull depends upon the number of
dimensions available in the generalized coordinates of
the media. The forces must be in equilibrium but exact
equilibrium pattern depends upon which global loop
equilibrium state “Ζ” the event being modeled is in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In the simplest
equilibrium state the masses and charges are collocated.
This implies the internal forward propagating in time
forces F<sub>cm</sub>,F<sub>mc</sub>, and backward
propagating in time force F<sub>mc</sub>*,F<sub>cm</sub>*
are zero, and if there are no internal force pulling the
charges and masses together then sum of the remaining
exterior gravito-electric forces pulling the charge and
mass apart must separately be zero precisely at the
collocation point. A trivial condition that satisfies
these equations is when all forces are zero. In this
case there is no action in the media and no action for
expanding the coordinate frame defining a volume of
space. We are back to a formless blob of zero volume,
where all charges and masses are at the same point. This
is the absolute ground state of material, one level of
something above nothing. The big bang before the energy
of action flow is added. <o:p></o:p></p>
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height="250" width="254"><!--[endif]-->To exemplify
the methods we consider an equilibrium state of a single
isolated cell whose only degree of freedom is the time
direction. This means the volume in all space directions
are infinitesimally small and the volume can be
considered a single line of extension “ΔVol = ΔT<sub>w</sub>
= ∫dζ<sub><span style="font-size:14.0pt">t</span></sub><span
style="font-size:14.0pt"> “ </span>along the time
direction as shown in the god’s eye perspective of
figure 4.3-6. In this situation we can consider charges
and masses to be point particles. Forces as well as
action can only propagate along the material length of
the line time line represented in space as “Qw”. We now
list the sequence of changes that can propagate through
around the equilibrium positions indicated by numbers in
parenthesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(1)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->The
upper charge is pushed from its equilibrium position
(filled icon) forward along the time line<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(2)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->It
exerts a force “Fem” on the left charge pushing it
forward while feeling a reaction force “Fem*” that
retards it back to its equilibrium position<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(3)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the left charge is moved from equilibrium it exerts an
internal “Fcm” force on the bottom mass while feeling a
reaction force “Fcm*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(4)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the bottom mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a
force “Fgi” on the right mass while feeling a reaction
force “Fgi*” which returns it to equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(5)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the right mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a
force “Fmc” on the upper charge while feeling a reaction
force “Fmc*” which returns it to equilibrium. We are
now back to (1).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">If the
system is isolated there is no dissipation into other
degrees of freedom and the oscillation continues to move
as a compression wave around the “Qw” time line
circumference forever. The graph however is static and
shows a fixed amount of action indicated by the shaded
arrows around the time line. Motion in “block” models is
produced by the velocity of the observer or model
operator as he moves around the time line. From our
god’s eye perspective an action density is permanently
painted on the clock dial and thereby describes an total
event. The last degree of freedom events are rather
trivial <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We need a geometry in
which both space and time are curved back on themselves
to provide a donut in which the forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc
are self contained eigen states at each action quanta. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does any of this suggest a tension
field you might be thinking about??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/24/2018 7:20 PM, Roychoudhuri,
Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Yes, I have submitted an essay.
FQXi has not sent the approval link yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Replacement of our SPIE conf.
Without a supporting infrastructure to replace
SPIE-like support, it is very difficult to manage. I
will try NSF during the last week of May. Do you
want to start negotiating with some out-of-box
European groups? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Re-starting afresh from the
bottom up is the only way to start re-building a
unified field theory. It is futile to force-fit
whole bunch of different theories that were
structured differently at different states of human
cultural epoch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Wolfgang Baer <<a
href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just rereading your 2015 paper "Urgency of
evolution..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I love the sentiment " This is a good time to
start iteratively re-evaluating and
restructuring all the foundational postulates
behind all the working theories"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Did you write a paper for FQXi?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I sent one in <a
href="https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Is there any chance to get a replacement for the SPIE conference, one that would expand the questions </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">beyond the nature of light?</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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