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<p>Chandra:</p>
<p>Here I fully agree with Albrecht mass and charge are something
physical behind these two forces and conveniently behind gravity
and the Coulomb force as well.</p>
<p>I just finished a draft chapter on model building in which I
define something very similar to your CTF however in order to make
the model or any model useful I need to define appropriate
visualizations. Since mass and charge have been rejected by the
consensus, I must ask 'anyone" please give me some other
visualization for what CTF is that can be imagined. <br>
</p>
<p>Wolf<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2018 2:07 PM, Albrecht Giese
wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1">Chandra,</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Which "something physically" exists in case of
the Coriolis force?<br>
Answer: It is an inertial mass.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">And which </font><font size="+1">"something
physically" exists in case of magnetism?<br>
Answer: It is an electrical charge.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Albrecht<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.02.2018 um 22:02 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Albrecht and the
rest of our colleagues:: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Albrecht: Thanks
for your patience in guiding me to delve into magnetism
that I never paid attention to before.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Now I see that it
has deep implications in understanding (further defining
properties of) the Complex Tension Field (CTF). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">My current position
is that nothing can be perceived by another “test object”,
whether stationary or moving, unless something physically
exists in the first place. <b><i>What is in the space
around a charge that appears as a magnetic field when
the test magnetic field is in “relative motion”?</i></b>
Is it the temporal gradient of a static charge-field? But,
then we are back again to Maxwell! Yet, I agree that
Maxwell has not given us the complete final physics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">I hope this
question alerts the enquiring minds of everybody in our
group. I believe, it is of some fundamental importance. I
will keep pondering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Right now I am
looking for money to test the existence of a stationary
CTF guiding linear EM waves via “epsilon-not” and
“mu-not”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Chandra. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 26, 2018 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Let's begin with your
question at the end. </span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">It is a good and a
challenging question in so far as we treat magnetism in
our everyday live in a way which does not reflect the true
physics behind it. Normally if we have to do it with
magnetism, then it is a magnetic dipole. And when we
measure a magnetic field we use another magnetic dipole,
i.e. we measure the force or the angular momentum onto
this test dipole.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The clean way to measure a
magnetic field is to use an electric test charge. If there
is a force acting on the test charge we have to check
whether this force can be explained by the presence of
another charge using the Coulomb law. Then we have to
build the difference between the force given by the
Coulomb law and the real force observed. This difference
is "magnetism". </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If we say that the earth has
a magnetic field, we mean that it is a magnetic dipole.
And we measure the field strength by the use of another
magnetic dipole, we may call the latter one a
"test-dipole". </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Now your question regarding
the Earth. To measure the magnetic field of the Earth
physically, one should use an electrical test charge and
measure the force on it. Now, if the earth is not
electrically charged, the result will be 0. That means no
magnetic field is detected. Should now the observer move
together with his charge in relation to the Earch, there
will be a force. That means during his motion he will see
a magnetic field. - This answers your question how it can
be achieved that an observer does not see a magnetic
field. Normally he will not see it anyway. Our daily
experience is of course different. Because if someone
starts to measure the magnetism of the earth he will use a
dipole as said above; with the conclusion that there is a
magnetic field. And it will be extremely difficult (I
think impossible) to move a dipole so that it will not see
a magnetic field. The reason is simple. In a magnetic
dipole, which is generally a coil with a current in it,
there are always charges at some position in the coil
which are in a motion state to the moving charges in the
Earth, so one will register magnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">You mention a "magnetic
body". I do not feel that this is a good way to name it.
The magnetic body at the end is an electric charge. And
that one is only "magnetic" if it is viewed from a certain
perspective.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Then you say: </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">A propagating EM
wave has oscillating E and B vectors. A dipole oscillation
induces oscillating E, which generates its own restoring
force B, ...</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">
Please have in mind that this is the understanding of
Maxwell's theory. But Maxwell is good for the practical
use of electromagnetism, but it does not reflect the cause
of magnetism. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If you have general doubts
about my description of magnetism I should say that all
this is not my idea but main stream physics, can be found
in textbooks e.g. about SR. However ignored by most
practising main stream physicists. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 26.02.2018 um 00:25 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Wolf:</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">I think, I am
more along the line of your thinking.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Albrecht: </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Now I am
realizing that magnetism is a very important field (pun
intended </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#000099">J</span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> that I do not
fully understand. Intuitively I disagree with the
explanation that “magnetic field” EMERGES only due to
RELATIVE VELOCITY between a charge and an <b><i>observer</i></b>.
Relative velocity may change the quantification by our
instrument of what already exist in nature. I submit, I
do not have good counter theory.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">On a different
angle, we human are mere interpreters of data, send to
our neural network, whether by our internal body-sensors
or by reading “dials” of external sensors (instruments).
<b><i>Interactants, inside our instruments that generate
the data, are the real “observers”</i></b>, if we
must use this word..<b><i> Humans are not the observers,
just interpreters. </i></b>Therefore, the job of
humans should be to develop theories that directly tries
to model the <b><i>interaction processes</i></b> going
on between the interactants inside the instruments, or
in nature. Our interpretations can vary widely from
person to person; but the physical transformations
experienced by the interactants inside our instruments
follow ontological (existing) rules of operation in
nature. That is why we can get re-producible data for
the same interaction process. This is the bedrock of
causal physics. We can modify the strengths of
interactions by introducing changes in the interaction
parameter in diverse ways, including relative velocity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">
Unfortunately, my expertise on magnetism is quite
limited. However, as of now, I am reluctant to accept
that magnetism <b><i>appears</i></b> only as SR
implicates. In my stationary CTF model, everything
observable and their properties do emerge due to dynamic
movements. But they are real, not “relative”. Can we
really claim that magnetism is like Doppler Effect? The
measured frequency shift is solely dependent on the
relative velocity. However, the frequency of the emitted
radiation is the real physical parameter of a physical
entity, an EM wave packet. That is why Doppler shift
varies with the relative velocity.<b><i> Does the
strength of magnetic field changes with the relative
velocity of the detector with respect to the
magnetic body?</i></b> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Another angle. A
propagating EM wave has oscillating E and B vectors. A
dipole oscillation induces oscillating E, which
generates its own restoring force B, thereby, generating
the perpetually oscillating and propagating wave packet
in the <b><i>stationary</i></b> CTF. In the biological
world, cellular magnetism plays wide ranges of important
functions. I will have read up on these phenomena. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Let me pose a
question. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Earth and many
other planets have magnetic fields due to motions in
their cores. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Can an external
magnetic sensor be forced to read “null magnetic field”
by giving it the right velocity in the right direction?
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General [<a
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 23, 2018 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Hi Wolf, and hi Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">comments and answers down
in the text:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 23.02.2018 um 05:28 schrieb
Wolfgang Baer:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">"Whenever an observer is
in a magnetic field, he can find a motion state so
that the magnetic field disappears."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I've heard this many
times but now that you said it, and I'm no longer a
student so I have time to wonder , </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">there is a coil of wire
in front of me I feel a magnetic field exactly how
would I move to make it disappear? And what other
forces would I experience to maintain that motion?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">This may
be explainable stepwise. In the first step use a coil of
wire with only one moving charge in it. Now have a test
charge at the side outside the coil. This test charge
will see the electrostatic force according to the
Coulomb law, but nothing more. If this test charge is
not at rest but moving then in the frame of the test
charge nothing changes, Coulomb still applies. But if an
observer at rest measures the electrostatic force
between both in <u>his </u>frame, he will see a
different force acting on the test charge. This can be
also calculated using the Lorentz transformation with
respect to force. This difference is called "magnetism".
If now the observer moves with the test charge he will
only see the electrostatic force like the test charge
itself does, so no magnetism. <br>
If there in not only one charge in the coil but a lot of
them, there will be a superposition of all applying
forces. Now an observer who wants to escape the magnetic
field will have to find a new frame which takes into
account this superposition. <br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The electron velocity in
a wire is quite low and I can increase the current and
keep the velocity the same thus increase the magnetic
field so if I rotate around the center axis of the
loop I can make the charges stand still and there
should be no magnetic field - maybe but now we have to
ask how do I measure the magnetic field to reach this
conclusion?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">A
magnetic field is generally measured in the way that the
force on a charge is measured and the result is compared
to the expected Coulomb force. If there is an excess of
force, it is magnetism.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">well if I place another
wire loop the electrons in both wires move at the same
velocity and by the argument above they would not
"see" the electrons in the other ring moving but they
would certainly feel a magnetic field and the two
loops would attract each other</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The
electrons in one loop will of course "see" the electrons
in the other one. If both wires are overcharged with
electrons then there will be the repelling Coulomb
force. But in the normal case in practise the wires are
electrically neutral. And a current means that negative
charges (here electrons) are moving into one direction
and positive charges (the corresponding positive "holes"
of charge) are moving into the other direction. Now,
what will a test electron notice which moves outside
along the wire? It will see the charges moving into the
opposite direction relativistically contracted, the
co-moving ones not (or precisely: extended). And so the
test electron will see a different density of charges
(for the positive and negative ones) and so a resulting
field (which an electron at rest will not see). The
resulting force which is only noticeable by a moving
test charge is called magnetism. <br>
<br>
There is a video of Versitasium which shows this quite
illustrative:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">What am I missing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Was this
understandable?<br>
Albrecht<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/22/2018 11:26 AM, Albrecht
Giese wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I like very much what
you have written here. Particularly what you say
about "time" which physically means oscillations.
That is what one should keep in mind when thinking
about relativity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">However in one point I
have to object. That is your judgement of the
parameter</span> <span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span>.
<span style="font-size:13.5pt"> I think that it is a
result from the historical fact that magnetism was
detected long time earlier than electricity. So
magnetism plays a great role in our view of physics
which does not reflect its role there. We know since
about 100 years that magnetism is not a primary
phenomenon but an apparent effect, a side effect of
the electric field which is caused by the finiteness
of c. If c would be infinite there would not be any
magnetism. This is given by the equation </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup>
= (1/ϵµ)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> which
you have mentioned. This equation should be better
written as </span><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ = (1/c<sup>2</sup>ϵ) </span><span
style="font-size:13.5pt"> to reflect this physical
fact, the dependency of the magnetism on c. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The symmetry between
electricity and magnetism is suggested by Maxwell's
equation. These equations are mathematically very
elegant and well usable in practice. But they do not
reflect the physical reality. Easiest visible is the
fact that we have electrical monopoles but no
magnetic monopoles. Einstein has described this fact
by saying: Whenever an observer is in a magnetic
field, he can find a motion state so that the
magnetic field disappears. - This is as we know not
possible for an electric field.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think that we have
discussed this earlier. Do you remember?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.02.2018 um 00:00 schrieb
Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We nee</i><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">d a geometry in which
both space and time are curved back on
themselves to provide a donut in which the
forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained
eigen states at each action quanta. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does
any of this suggest a tension field you might be
thinking about??”</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Yes,
Wolf, we need to model mathematically the “twists
and turns” of different intrinsic potential
gradients embedded in CTF (Complex Tension Field)
to create stationary self-looped oscillations (<b><i>field-particles</i></b>).
Maxwell achieved that for the propagating linear
excitations using his brilliant observations of
using the double differentiation – giving us the
EM wave equation. We need to find non-propagating
(stationary – Newton’s first law) self-looped
oscillations – the in-phase ones will be stable,
others will “break apart” with different
life-times depending upon how far they are from
the in-phase closed-loop conditions. The successes
of the mathematical oscillatory dynamic model
could be judged by the number of predicted
properties the theory can find for the <b><i>field-particles,</i></b>
which we have measured so far. The physical CTF
must remain stationary holding 100% of the cosmic
energy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> However,
I would not attempt to keep the primacy of
Relativity by trying to keep the Space-Time 4-D
concept intact. If we want to capture the
ontological reality; we must imagine and visualize
the potential <b><i>foundational</i></b> physical
process and represent that with a set of algebraic
symbols and call them the primary parameters of
“different grades”. During constructing
mathematical theories, it is of prime importance
to introduce consciously this concept of
“primary”, vs. “secondary”, vs. “tertiary”, etc.,
physical parameters related to any observable
physical phenomenon. The physical parameter that
dictates the core existence of an entity in nature
should be considered as primary. However, it is
not going to be easy because of the complexities
in the different interaction processes – different
parameters take key role in transferring the
energy in different interactions. Besides, our
ignorance is still significantly broad compared to
the “validated” knowledge we have gathered about
our universe. Here is a glaring example. νλ = c =
(1/ϵµ). If I am doing atomic physics, ν is of
primary importance because of the quantum
resonance with ν and the QM energy exchange rule
is “hν”. “λ” changes from medium to medium. If I
am doing Astrophysics, ϵ and µ for free space, are
of primary significance; even though people tend
to use “c”, while missing out the fundamental
roles of ϵ and µ as some of the core building
blocks of the universe. Funny thing is that the ϵ
and µ of free space were recognized well before
Maxwell synthesized Electromagnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> With
this background, I want underscore that the
“running time, “t” is of critical importance in
our formulation of the dynamic universe. And, yet
“t’ is not a directly measurable physical
parameter of any object in this universe. What we
measure is really the frequency, or its inverse,
the oscillation periods of different physical
oscillators in this universe. So, frequency can be
dilated or contracted by controlling the ambient
physical parameter of the environment that
surrounds and INFLUENCES the oscillator. The
running time cannot be dilated or contracted; even
though Minkowsky introduced this “dilation”
concept. This is the reason why I have been
pushing for the introduction in physics thinking
the Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology
(IPM-E). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
General [<a
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational
questions Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Candra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"> Let’s
consider your tension filed is a medium underlying
the experience of space composed of charge and mass
density spread out in the cross-section of a time
loop.. Coordinate frame cells of <i>small enough</i>
sizes can be described by constant enough mass and
charge densities in each cell. For small enough
cells the mass and charge values concentrated at
their centers may be used in stead of the densities.
The resulting field of center values can take any
pattern that satisfies the extended dAlambert
principle. Besides the classic electro-magnetic Fem
and gravito-inertial force Fgi I postulate forces
tat hold charge and mass together Fcm, Fmc. This
condition assures mass charge centers in each cell
appear at locations of balanced forces. Each
pattern which satisfies this condition represents a
static state of the loop in which the patterns are
fixed for the lifetime of the loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The Charge-Mass Separation
Vector and Equilibrium States</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">The
physical size of the space is its volume. The
volume (Vol) of space is the sum of the
infinitesimal volumes dVol of each of the cells
composing that space “Vol = ∫<sub>all space</sub>
dVol”. These infinitesimal volumes are calculated
from the mass-charge density extensions in each cell
when viewed externally as shown in figure 4.3-3a .
The physical volume depends upon the mass charge
separation pattern of the equilibrium state the
system being modeled exists in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In CAT the extension
of a cell can be calculated as follows. In each cell
the distance between the center of charge and mass
is a vector d<b>ζ.</b> The projection of this vector
onto the degrees of freedom directions available for
the charge and mass to move in the generalized
coordinate space allows us to expansion this vector
as, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-1 <b>dζ
=</b> dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙u<sub>t</sub></b> + dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙u<sub>x</sub>
</b>+ dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙u<sub>y</sub> </b>+ dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙u<sub>z</sub>
+…</b> dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙u<sub>f</sub> +…,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b>where the <b>u<sub>f</sub></b>’s
are the unit vectors. A space limited to Cartesian
3-space is characterized by three x,y,z directions,
but CAT models a generalized space that encompasses
all sensor modalities not only the optical ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The volume of a cell
calculated from the diagonal expansion vector “<b>dζ”</b>
by multiplying all non zero coefficients,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-2
dVol = dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙…∙</b>dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙…
.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The shape of this
volume is determined by the direction of the
expansion vector which in turn is determined by the
direction and strength of forces pulling the charge
and mass apart. The direction of pull depends upon
the number of dimensions available in the
generalized coordinates of the media. The forces
must be in equilibrium but exact equilibrium pattern
depends upon which global loop equilibrium state “Ζ”
the event being modeled is in. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In the simplest
equilibrium state the masses and charges are
collocated. This implies the internal forward
propagating in time forces F<sub>cm</sub>,F<sub>mc</sub>,
and backward propagating in time force F<sub>mc</sub>*,F<sub>cm</sub>*
are zero, and if there are no internal force pulling
the charges and masses together then sum of the
remaining exterior gravito-electric forces pulling
the charge and mass apart must separately be zero
precisely at the collocation point. A trivial
condition that satisfies these equations is when all
forces are zero. In this case there is no action in
the media and no action for expanding the coordinate
frame defining a volume of space. We are back to a
formless blob of zero volume, where all charges and
masses are at the same point. This is the absolute
ground state of material, one level of something
above nothing. The big bang before the energy of
action flow is added. <o:p></o:p></p>
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width="254" height="1"><!--[endif]-->To exemplify
the methods we consider an equilibrium state of a
single isolated cell whose only degree of freedom is
the time direction. This means the volume in all
space directions are infinitesimally small and the
volume can be considered a single line of extension
“ΔVol = ΔT<sub>w</sub> = ∫dζ<sub><span
style="font-size:14.0pt">t</span></sub><span
style="font-size:14.0pt"> “ </span>along the time
direction as shown in the god’s eye perspective of
figure 4.3-6. In this situation we can consider
charges and masses to be point particles. Forces as
well as action can only propagate along the material
length of the line time line represented in space as
“Qw”. We now list the sequence of changes that can
propagate through around the equilibrium positions
indicated by numbers in parenthesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">(1)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->The
upper charge is pushed from its equilibrium position
(filled icon) forward along the time line<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">(2)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->It
exerts a force “Fem” on the left charge pushing it
forward while feeling a reaction force “Fem*” that
retards it back to its equilibrium position<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">(3)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the left charge is moved from equilibrium it exerts
an internal “Fcm” force on the bottom mass while
feeling a reaction force “Fcm*” which returns it to
equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">(4)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the bottom mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts
a force “Fgi” on the right mass while feeling a
reaction force “Fgi*” which returns it to
equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">(5)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
the right mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a
force “Fmc” on the upper charge while feeling a
reaction force “Fmc*” which returns it to
equilibrium. We are now back to (1).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">If the
system is isolated there is no dissipation into
other degrees of freedom and the oscillation
continues to move as a compression wave around the
“Qw” time line circumference forever. The graph
however is static and shows a fixed amount of action
indicated by the shaded arrows around the time line.
Motion in “block” models is produced by the velocity
of the observer or model operator as he moves around
the time line. From our god’s eye perspective an
action density is permanently painted on the clock
dial and thereby describes an total event. The last
degree of freedom events are rather trivial <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> We need a geometry in
which both space and time are curved back on
themselves to provide a donut in which the forces
Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained eigen states at
each action quanta. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does any of this suggest a
tension field you might be thinking about??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/24/2018 7:20 PM,
Roychoudhuri, Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Yes, I have submitted an
essay. FQXi has not sent the approval link yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. Replacement of our SPIE
conf. Without a supporting infrastructure to
replace SPIE-like support, it is very difficult
to manage. I will try NSF during the last week
of May. Do you want to start negotiating with
some out-of-box European groups? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. Re-starting afresh from
the bottom up is the only way to start
re-building a unified field theory. It is futile
to force-fit whole bunch of different theories
that were structured differently at different
states of human cultural epoch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Wolfgang Baer
<<a href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Just rereading your 2015 paper "Urgency of
evolution..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I love the sentiment " This is a good time
to start iteratively re-evaluating and
restructuring all the foundational
postulates behind all the working theories"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Did you write a paper for FQXi?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I sent one in <a
href="https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Is there any chance to get a replacement for the SPIE conference, one that would expand the questions </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">beyond the nature of light?</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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