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    <p>Chandra:</p>
    <p>Here I fully agree with Albrecht mass and charge are something
      physical behind these two forces and conveniently behind gravity
      and the Coulomb force as well.</p>
    <p>I just finished a draft chapter on model building in which I
      define something very similar to your CTF however in order to make
      the model or any model useful I need to define appropriate
      visualizations. Since mass and charge have been rejected by the
      consensus, I must ask 'anyone" please give me some other
      visualization for what CTF is that can be imagined. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Wolf<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
E-mail <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com">wolf@NascentInc.com</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2018 2:07 PM, Albrecht Giese
      wrote:<br>
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      <p><font size="+1">Chandra,</font></p>
      <p><font size="+1">Which "something physically" exists in case of
          the Coriolis force?<br>
          Answer: It is an inertial mass.</font></p>
      <p><font size="+1">And which </font><font size="+1">"something
          physically" exists in case of magnetism?<br>
          Answer: It is an electrical charge.</font></p>
      <p><font size="+1">Albrecht<br>
          <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.02.2018 um 22:02 schrieb
        Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Albrecht and the
              rest of our colleagues:: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Albrecht: Thanks
              for your patience in guiding me to delve into magnetism
              that I never paid attention to before.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Now I see that it
              has deep implications in understanding (further defining
              properties of) the Complex Tension Field (CTF). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">My current position
              is that nothing can be perceived by another “test object”,
              whether stationary or moving, unless something physically
              exists in the first place. <b><i>What is in the space
                  around a charge that appears as a magnetic field when
                  the test magnetic field is in “relative motion”?</i></b>
              Is it the temporal gradient of a static charge-field? But,
              then we are back again to Maxwell! Yet, I agree that
              Maxwell has not given us the complete final physics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">I hope this
              question alerts the enquiring minds of everybody in our
              group. I believe, it is of some fundamental importance. I
              will keep pondering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Right now I am
              looking for money to test the existence of a stationary
              CTF guiding linear EM waves via “epsilon-not” and
              “mu-not”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Chandra. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
                  General
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
                    Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 26, 2018 3:30 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
                  Tension field stable particles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Let's begin with your
              question at the end. </span> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">It is a good and a
              challenging question in so far as we treat magnetism in
              our everyday live in a way which does not reflect the true
              physics behind it. Normally if we have to do it with
              magnetism, then it is a magnetic dipole. And when we
              measure a magnetic field we use another magnetic dipole,
              i.e. we measure the force or the angular momentum onto
              this test dipole.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The clean way to measure a
              magnetic field is to use an electric test charge. If there
              is a force acting on the test charge we have to check
              whether this force can be explained by the presence of
              another charge using the Coulomb law. Then we have to
              build the difference between the force given by the
              Coulomb law and the real force observed. This difference
              is "magnetism". </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If we say that the earth has
              a magnetic field, we mean that it is a magnetic dipole.
              And we measure the field strength by the use of another
              magnetic dipole, we may call the latter one a
              "test-dipole". </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Now your question regarding
              the Earth. To measure the magnetic field of the Earth
              physically, one should use an electrical test charge and
              measure the force on it. Now, if the earth is not
              electrically charged, the result will be 0. That means no
              magnetic field is detected. Should now the observer move
              together with his charge in relation to the Earch, there
              will be a force. That means during his motion he will see
              a magnetic field. - This answers your question how it can
              be achieved that an observer does not see a magnetic
              field. Normally he will not see it anyway. Our daily
              experience is of course different. Because if someone
              starts to measure the magnetism of the earth he will use a
              dipole as said above; with the conclusion that there is a
              magnetic field. And it will be extremely difficult (I
              think impossible) to move a dipole so that it will not see
              a magnetic field. The reason is simple. In a magnetic
              dipole, which is generally a coil with a current in it,
              there are always charges at some position in the coil
              which are in a motion state to the moving charges in the
              Earth, so one will register magnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">You mention a "magnetic
              body". I do not feel that this is a good way to name it.
              The magnetic body at the end is an electric charge. And
              that one is only "magnetic" if it is viewed from a certain
              perspective.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Then you say: </span><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">A propagating EM
              wave has oscillating E and B vectors. A dipole oscillation
              induces oscillating E, which generates its own restoring
              force B, ...</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">  
              Please have in mind that this is the understanding of
              Maxwell's theory. But Maxwell is good for the practical
              use of electromagnetism, but it does not reflect the cause
              of magnetism. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If you have general doubts
              about my description of magnetism I should say that all
              this is not my idea but main stream physics, can be found
              in textbooks e.g. about SR. However ignored by most
              practising main stream physicists. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Am 26.02.2018 um 00:25 schrieb
              Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Wolf:</span></i></b><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">I think, I am
                more along the line of your thinking.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Albrecht: </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Now I am
                realizing that magnetism is a very important field (pun
                intended </span><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#000099">J</span><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> that I do not
                fully understand. Intuitively I disagree with the
                explanation that “magnetic field” EMERGES only due to
                RELATIVE VELOCITY between a charge and an <b><i>observer</i></b>.
                Relative velocity may change the quantification by our
                instrument of what already exist in nature. I submit, I
                do not have good counter theory.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">On a different
                angle, we human are mere interpreters of data, send to
                our neural network, whether by our internal body-sensors
                or by reading “dials” of external sensors (instruments).
                <b><i>Interactants, inside our instruments that generate
                    the data, are the real “observers”</i></b>, if we
                must use this word..<b><i> Humans are not the observers,
                    just interpreters. </i></b>Therefore, the job of
                humans should be to develop theories that directly tries
                to model the <b><i>interaction processes</i></b> going
                on between the interactants inside the instruments, or
                in nature. Our interpretations can vary widely from
                person to person; but the physical transformations
                experienced by the interactants inside our instruments
                follow ontological (existing) rules of operation in
                nature. That is why we can get re-producible data for
                the same interaction process. This is the bedrock of
                causal physics. We can modify the strengths of
                interactions by introducing changes in the interaction
                parameter in diverse ways, including relative velocity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">    
                Unfortunately, my expertise on magnetism is quite
                limited. However, as of now, I am reluctant to accept
                that magnetism <b><i>appears</i></b> only as SR
                implicates. In my stationary CTF model, everything
                observable and their properties do emerge due to dynamic
                movements. But they are real, not “relative”. Can we
                really claim that magnetism is like Doppler Effect? The
                measured frequency shift is solely dependent on the
                relative velocity. However, the frequency of the emitted
                radiation is the real physical parameter of a physical
                entity, an EM wave packet. That is why Doppler shift
                varies with the relative velocity.<b><i> Does the
                    strength of magnetic field changes with the relative
                    velocity of the detector with respect to the
                    magnetic body?</i></b>  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Another angle. A
                propagating EM wave has oscillating E and B vectors. A
                dipole oscillation induces oscillating E, which
                generates its own restoring force B, thereby, generating
                the perpetually oscillating and propagating wave packet
                in the <b><i>stationary</i></b> CTF. In the biological
                world, cellular magnetism plays wide ranges of important
                functions. I will have read up on these phenomena. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Let me pose a
                question. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Earth and many
                other planets have magnetic fields due to motions in
                their cores. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Can an external
                magnetic sensor be forced to read “null magnetic field”
                by giving it the right velocity in the right direction?
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#000099">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
                    General [<a
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
                      Behalf Of </b>Albrecht Giese<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 23, 2018 3:02 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a
                      href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational questions
                    Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Hi Wolf, and hi Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">comments and answers down
                in the text:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Am 23.02.2018 um 05:28 schrieb
                Wolfgang Baer:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p>Albrecht:<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">"Whenever an observer is
                  in a magnetic field, he can find a motion state so
                  that the magnetic field disappears."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I've heard this many
                  times but now that you said it, and I'm no longer a
                  student so I have time to wonder , </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">there is a coil of wire
                  in front of me I feel a magnetic field exactly how
                  would I move to make it disappear? And what other
                  forces would I experience to maintain that motion?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">This may
                be explainable stepwise. In the first step use a coil of
                wire with only one moving charge in it. Now have a test
                charge at the side outside the coil. This test charge
                will see the electrostatic force according to the
                Coulomb law, but nothing more. If this test charge is
                not at rest but moving then in the frame of the test
                charge nothing changes, Coulomb still applies. But if an
                observer at rest measures the electrostatic force
                between both in <u>his </u>frame, he will see a
                different force acting on the test charge. This can be
                also calculated using the Lorentz transformation with
                respect to force. This difference is called "magnetism".
                If now the observer moves with the test charge he will
                only see the electrostatic force like the test charge
                itself does, so no magnetism. <br>
                If there in not only one charge in the coil but a lot of
                them, there will be a superposition of all applying
                forces. Now an observer who wants to escape the magnetic
                field will have to find a new frame which takes into
                account this superposition. <br>
                <br>
                <br>
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The electron velocity in
                  a wire is quite low and I can increase the current and
                  keep the velocity the same thus increase the magnetic
                  field so if I rotate around the center axis of the
                  loop I can make the charges stand still and there
                  should be no magnetic field - maybe but now we have to
                  ask how do I measure the magnetic field to reach this
                  conclusion?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">A
                magnetic field is generally measured in the way that the
                force on a charge is measured and the result is compared
                to the expected Coulomb force. If there is an excess of
                force, it is magnetism.</span><br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">well if I place another
                  wire loop the electrons in both wires move at the same
                  velocity and by the argument above they would not
                  "see" the electrons in the other ring moving but they
                  would certainly feel a magnetic field and the two
                  loops would attract each other</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The
                electrons in one loop will of course "see" the electrons
                in the other one. If both wires are overcharged with
                electrons then there will be the repelling Coulomb
                force. But in the normal case in practise the wires are
                electrically neutral. And a current means that negative
                charges (here electrons) are moving into one direction
                and positive charges (the corresponding positive "holes"
                of charge) are moving into the other direction. Now,
                what will a test electron notice which moves outside
                along the wire? It will see the charges moving into the
                opposite direction relativistically contracted, the
                co-moving ones not (or precisely: extended). And so the
                test electron will see a different density of charges
                (for the positive and negative ones) and so a resulting
                field (which an electron at rest will not see). The
                resulting force which is only noticeable by a moving
                test charge is called magnetism. <br>
                <br>
                There is a video of Versitasium which shows this quite
                illustrative:<br>
                <br>
                <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0</a><br>
                <br>
                <br>
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">What am I missing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Was this
                understandable?<br>
                Albrecht<br>
                <br>
                <br>
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
              <pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">On 2/22/2018 11:26 AM, Albrecht
                  Giese wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Chandra,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I like very much what
                    you have written here. Particularly what you say
                    about "time" which physically means oscillations.
                    That is what one should keep in mind when thinking
                    about relativity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">However in one point I
                    have to object. That is your judgement of the
                    parameter</span> <span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ</span>.
                  <span style="font-size:13.5pt"> I think that it is a
                    result from the historical fact that magnetism was
                    detected long time earlier than electricity. So
                    magnetism plays a great role in our view of physics
                    which does not reflect its role there. We know since
                    about 100 years that magnetism is not a primary
                    phenomenon but an apparent effect, a side effect of
                    the electric field which is caused by the finiteness
                    of c. If c would be infinite there would not be any
                    magnetism. This is given by the equation </span><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">c<sup>2</sup>
                    = (1/ϵµ)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> which
                    you have mentioned. This equation should be better
                    written as </span><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">µ = (1/c<sup>2</sup>ϵ) </span><span
                    style="font-size:13.5pt"> to reflect this physical
                    fact, the dependency of the magnetism on c. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The symmetry between
                    electricity and magnetism is suggested by Maxwell's
                    equation. These equations are mathematically very
                    elegant and well usable in practice. But they do not
                    reflect the physical reality. Easiest visible is the
                    fact that we have electrical monopoles but no
                    magnetic monopoles. Einstein has described this fact
                    by saying: Whenever an observer is in a magnetic
                    field, he can find a motion state so that the
                    magnetic field disappears. - This is as we know not
                    possible for an electric field.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I think that we have
                    discussed this earlier. Do you remember?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                    style="font-size:13.5pt">Albrecht</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Am 21.02.2018 um 00:00 schrieb
                    Roychoudhuri, Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We nee</i><i><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt">d a geometry in which
                        both space and time are curved back on
                        themselves to provide a donut in which the
                        forces Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained
                        eigen states at each action quanta. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Does
                        any of this suggest a tension field you might be
                        thinking about??”</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Yes,
                      Wolf, we need to model mathematically the “twists
                      and turns” of different intrinsic potential
                      gradients embedded in CTF (Complex Tension Field)
                      to create stationary self-looped oscillations (<b><i>field-particles</i></b>).
                      Maxwell achieved that for the propagating linear
                      excitations using his brilliant observations of
                      using the double differentiation – giving us the
                      EM wave equation. We need to find non-propagating
                      (stationary – Newton’s first law) self-looped
                      oscillations – the in-phase ones will be stable,
                      others will “break apart” with different
                      life-times depending upon how far they are from
                      the in-phase closed-loop conditions. The successes
                      of the mathematical oscillatory dynamic model
                      could be judged by the number of predicted
                      properties the theory can find for the <b><i>field-particles,</i></b>
                      which we have measured so far. The physical CTF
                      must remain stationary holding 100% of the cosmic
                      energy.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">    However,
                      I would not attempt to keep the primacy of
                      Relativity by trying to keep the Space-Time 4-D
                      concept intact. If we want to capture the
                      ontological reality; we must imagine and visualize
                      the potential <b><i>foundational</i></b> physical
                      process and represent that with a set of algebraic
                      symbols and call them the primary parameters of
                      “different grades”. During constructing
                      mathematical theories, it is of prime importance
                      to introduce consciously this concept of
                      “primary”, vs. “secondary”, vs. “tertiary”, etc.,
                      physical parameters related to any observable
                      physical phenomenon. The physical parameter that
                      dictates the core existence of an entity in nature
                      should be considered as primary. However, it is
                      not going to be easy because of the complexities
                      in the different interaction processes – different
                      parameters take key role in transferring the
                      energy in different interactions. Besides, our
                      ignorance is still significantly broad compared to
                      the “validated” knowledge we have gathered about
                      our universe. Here is a glaring example. νλ = c =
                      (1/ϵµ). If I am doing atomic physics, ν is of
                      primary importance because of the quantum
                      resonance with ν and the QM energy exchange rule
                      is “hν”.   “λ” changes from medium to medium. If I
                      am doing Astrophysics, ϵ and µ for free space, are
                      of primary significance; even though people tend
                      to use “c”, while missing out the fundamental
                      roles of ϵ and µ as some of the core building
                      blocks of the universe. Funny thing is that the ϵ
                      and µ of free space were recognized well before
                      Maxwell synthesized Electromagnetism.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">    With
                      this background, I want underscore that the
                      “running time, “t” is of critical importance in
                      our formulation of the dynamic universe. And, yet
                      “t’ is not a directly measurable physical
                      parameter of any object in this universe. What we
                      measure is really the frequency, or its inverse,
                      the oscillation periods of different physical
                      oscillators in this universe. So, frequency can be
                      dilated or contracted by controlling the ambient
                      physical parameter of the environment that
                      surrounds and INFLUENCES the oscillator. The
                      running time cannot be dilated or contracted; even
                      though Minkowsky introduced this “dilation”
                      concept. This is the reason why I have been
                      pushing for the introduction in physics thinking
                      the Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology
                      (IPM-E). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:14.0pt;color:windowtext">Chandra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
                          General [<a
href="mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=uconn.edu@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>]<b>On
                            Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Baer<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56
                          PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> <a
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                            moz-do-not-send="true">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [General] Foundational
                          questions Tension field stable particles</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>Candra:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"> Let’s
                    consider your tension filed is a medium underlying
                    the experience of space composed of charge and mass
                    density spread out in the cross-section of a time
                    loop.. Coordinate frame cells of <i>small enough</i>
                    sizes can be described by constant enough mass and
                    charge densities in each cell. For small enough
                    cells the mass and charge values concentrated at
                    their centers may be used in stead of the densities.
                    The resulting field of center values can take any
                    pattern that satisfies the extended dAlambert
                    principle. Besides the classic electro-magnetic Fem
                    and gravito-inertial force Fgi I postulate forces
                    tat hold charge and mass together Fcm, Fmc. This
                    condition assures mass charge centers in each cell
                    appear at locations of balanced forces.  Each
                    pattern which satisfies this condition represents a
                    static state of the loop in which the patterns are
                    fixed for the lifetime of the loop.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>The Charge-Mass Separation
                      Vector and Equilibrium States</b><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">The
                    physical size of the space is its volume. The 
                    volume (Vol) of space is the sum of the
                    infinitesimal volumes dVol of  each of the cells
                    composing that space “Vol = ∫<sub>all space</sub>
                    dVol”. These infinitesimal volumes are calculated
                    from the mass-charge density extensions in each cell
                    when viewed externally as shown in figure 4.3-3a .
                    The physical volume depends upon the mass charge
                    separation pattern of the equilibrium state the
                    system being modeled exists in. <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">            In CAT the extension
                    of a cell can be calculated as follows. In each cell
                    the distance between the center of charge and mass
                    is a vector d<b>ζ.</b> The projection of this vector
                    onto the degrees of freedom directions available for
                    the charge and mass to move in the generalized
                    coordinate space allows us to expansion this vector
                    as,  <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-1                     <b>dζ
                      =</b> dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙u<sub>t</sub></b> + dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙u<sub>x</sub>
                    </b>+ dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙u<sub>y</sub> </b>+ dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙u<sub>z</sub>
                      +…</b> dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙u<sub>f</sub> +…,</b><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>            </b>where the <b>u<sub>f</sub></b>’s
                    are the unit vectors. A space limited to Cartesian
                    3-space is characterized by three x,y,z directions,
                    but CAT models a generalized space that encompasses
                    all sensor modalities not only the optical ones. <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">            The volume of a cell
                    calculated from the diagonal expansion vector “<b>dζ”</b>
                    by multiplying all non zero coefficients,<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Eq. 4.3-2                    
                    dVol =  dζ<sub>t</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>x</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>y</sub><b>∙</b>dζ<sub>z</sub><b>∙…∙</b>dζ<sub>f</sub><b>∙…
                      .</b><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">            The shape of this
                    volume is determined by the direction of the
                    expansion vector which in turn is determined by the
                    direction and strength of forces pulling the charge
                    and mass apart. The direction of pull depends upon
                    the number of dimensions available in the
                    generalized coordinates of the media. The forces
                    must be in equilibrium but exact equilibrium pattern
                    depends upon which global loop equilibrium state “Ζ”
                    the event being modeled is in. <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">            In the simplest
                    equilibrium state the masses and charges are
                    collocated. This implies the internal forward
                    propagating in time forces F<sub>cm</sub>,F<sub>mc</sub>,
                    and backward propagating in time force F<sub>mc</sub>*,F<sub>cm</sub>*
                    are zero, and if there are no internal force pulling
                    the charges and masses together then sum of the
                    remaining exterior gravito-electric forces pulling
                    the charge and mass apart must separately be zero
                    precisely at the collocation point. A trivial
                    condition that satisfies these equations is when all
                    forces are zero. In this case there is no action in
                    the media and no action for expanding the coordinate
                    frame defining a volume of space. We are back to a
                    formless blob of zero volume, where all charges and
                    masses are at the same point. This is the absolute
                    ground state of material, one level of something
                    above nothing.  The big bang before the energy of
                    action flow is added. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      width="254" height="1"><!--[endif]-->To exemplify
                    the methods we consider an equilibrium state of a
                    single isolated cell whose only degree of freedom is
                    the time direction. This means the volume in all
                    space directions are infinitesimally small and the
                    volume can be considered a single line of extension
                    “ΔVol = ΔT<sub>w</sub> = ∫dζ<sub><span
                        style="font-size:14.0pt">t</span></sub><span
                      style="font-size:14.0pt"> “ </span>along the time
                    direction as shown in the god’s eye perspective of
                    figure 4.3-6. In this situation we can consider
                    charges and masses to be point particles. Forces as
                    well as action can only propagate along the material
                    length of the line time line represented in space as
                    “Qw”. We now list the sequence of changes that can
                    propagate through around the equilibrium positions
                    indicated by numbers in parenthesis.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo2">
                    <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="mso-list:Ignore">(1)<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"">  </span></span><!--[endif]-->The
                    upper charge is pushed from its equilibrium position
                    (filled icon) forward along the time line<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo2">
                    <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="mso-list:Ignore">(2)<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"">  </span></span><!--[endif]-->It
                    exerts a force “Fem” on the left charge pushing it
                    forward while feeling a reaction force “Fem*” that
                    retards it back to its equilibrium position<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo2">
                    <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="mso-list:Ignore">(3)<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"">  </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
                    the left charge is moved from equilibrium it exerts
                    an internal “Fcm” force on the bottom mass while
                    feeling a reaction force “Fcm*” which  returns it to
                    equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo2">
                    <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="mso-list:Ignore">(4)<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"">  </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
                    the bottom mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts
                    a force “Fgi” on the right mass while feeling a
                    reaction force “Fgi*”  which returns it to
                    equilibrium.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
                    level1 lfo2">
                    <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="mso-list:Ignore">(5)<span style="font:7.0pt
                        "Times New Roman"">  </span></span><!--[endif]-->While
                    the right mass is moved from equilibrium it exerts a
                    force “Fmc” on the upper charge while feeling a
                    reaction force “Fmc*”  which returns it to
                    equilibrium. We are now back to (1).<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">If the
                    system is isolated there is no dissipation into
                    other degrees of freedom and the oscillation
                    continues to move as a compression wave around the
                    “Qw” time line circumference forever. The graph
                    however is static and shows a fixed amount of action
                    indicated by the shaded arrows around the time line.
                    Motion in “block” models is produced by the velocity
                    of the observer or model operator as he moves around
                    the time line. From our god’s eye perspective an
                    action density is permanently painted on the clock
                    dial and thereby describes an total event. The last
                    degree of freedom events are rather trivial    <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">            We need a geometry in
                    which both space and time are curved back on
                    themselves to provide a donut in which the forces
                    Fem, Fgi, Fcm,Fmc are self contained eigen states at
                    each action quanta. <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Does any of this suggest a
                    tension field you might be thinking about??<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 1/24/2018 7:20 PM,
                      Roychoudhuri, Chandra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote
                    style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                    <p class="MsoNormal">1. Yes, I have submitted an
                      essay. FQXi has not sent the approval link yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">2. Replacement of our SPIE
                        conf. Without a supporting infrastructure to
                        replace SPIE-like support, it is very difficult
                        to manage. I will try NSF during the last week
                        of May. Do you want to start negotiating with
                        some out-of-box European groups? <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">3. Re-starting afresh from
                        the bottom up is the only way to start
                        re-building a unified field theory. It is futile
                        to force-fit whole bunch of different theories
                        that were structured differently at different
                        states of human cultural epoch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                          On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Wolfgang Baer
                          <<a href="mailto:wolf@nascentinc.com"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@nascentinc.com</a>>
                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                        <div>
                          <p>Chandra:<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>Just rereading your 2015 paper "Urgency of
                            evolution..."<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>I love the sentiment " This is a good time
                            to start iteratively re-evaluating and
                            restructuring all the foundational
                            postulates behind all the working theories"<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>Did you write a paper for FQXi?<o:p></o:p></p>
                          <p>I sent one in  <a
                              href="https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3043</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                          <pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Is there any chance to get a replacement for the SPIE conference, one that would expand the questions </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">beyond the nature of light?</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Wolf</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre>Dr. Wolfgang Baer<o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre>Research Director<o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre>Nascent Systems Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre>tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432<o:p></o:p></pre>
                          <pre>E-mail <a href="mailto:wolf@NascentInc.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wolf@NascentInc.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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