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body { font-family: Segoe UI; font-size: 12pt; }</style></head><body><div>Now spell-checked and Cc:ed correctly - sorry for my eagerness to send! /joakim</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV">Hi DataPR,<o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV">A crash-start from a long-term reader of this forum:<o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV"><o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV">* Vivian Robinson studied implications of the assumption that matter is
self-confined EM fields. From that assumption he can derive the world as we see
it, basically. He also postulates a theory of this self-confinement like
Heisenberg/Feynman might have: A push action from particle-particle exchanges
with all possible "background" or "virtual as in not really
there permanently but quite possible for short enough time" particles in
its immediate neighbourhood. <o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV"><o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV">* John Williamson studied the EM field itself and worked for many years on
getting one particle right: the largest-volume and lightest-mass confined
particle he can describe with it: an electron/positron. That theory is complementary
to Vivian's as it postulates a confinement theory like Maxwell/Shrödinger/Einstein
might have: A pull action from the gravity field within. It can explain all the
standing wave phenomena, superconductivity, charge and flux quantization as
simple topological problems: A wave knot is the same knot, topologically,
however far you stretch in it any direction. It is perhaps easier to imagine a free
particle (field knot) as a photon circling a black hole. But here the black
hole is the gravity field created by itself, or in other words some distributed
space-void within. A bound particle (electron in an atom) is circling a larger
mass so it can be further away from the gravity centre, but then it also has (for
an outside viewer) a lower frequency/longer wavelength so that it still finds
itself after the same number or rotations around the void. It then interferes
constructively over all its path and stays stable. A next level of understanding
is that the different particle-fields inside compound matter like a free atom
or a sold-state piece of matter are as affected by the neighbouring fields as by
itself, and therefore they also stretch as more field is added (to preserve
their individual topologies). A more advanced level of understanding is that
all these single-particle fields actually are the same field, just more intense
and more complex than a fixed set of topological parameters: all the possible
combinations of the topological parameters that still conserve the net compound
topology are in there, in the net field, but at different times or rather room-time
zones. That last level explains what happens in superconductors as it slips
through a pin-hole of magnetic flux from one side to the other, or any other particle-wave
experiment. I could never explain this in detail before John W explained his
photon-electron theory. <o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
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SV"><o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV">* John Macken studied the gravitational field itself, and found that it
sets a limit on the density of black holes in a given universe-size. I see this
as the ultimate level of understanding, where any field we observe is explained
as a "swirl" and any particle as "rotation" on the sea of
all possible oscillations in the gravity-field. I guess it is life-time of the
object studied that defines the universe size that quantizes these gravitational
oscillations. Big bang was very short and might therefore have created all
possible oscillations it could contain in a super-excited black hole that then
exploded as more oscillations opened up with time.<o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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"Segoe UI","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:SV"> <o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
SV">Now this summary is just one of many that could be made, and all have their
favourites here, but hopefully it can give some leads for even better stories
to explain the world in worlds that even more can understand.<o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
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SV">Joakim Petterson<o:p xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="xe34eab67270f405"><blockquote cite="em24278046-2d85-4d43-8bf4-249d80a02471@perfeco" type="cite" class="cite2"><div><br /></div>
<div>------ Originalmeddelande ------</div>
<div>Från: "Viv Robinson" <<a href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com">viv@universephysics.com</a>></div>
<div>Till: "DataPacRat" <<a href="mailto:datapacrat@gmail.com">datapacrat@gmail.com</a>>; "Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org">general@lists.natureoflightandparticles.org</a>></div>
<div>Skickat: 2019-03-17 00:59:59</div>
<div>Ämne: Re: [General] Short summaries of ideas?</div><div><br /></div>
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<div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; ">Hi DataPR</div> <br /> <div class="gmail_signature">I append a dozen pages that gives a physical and mathematical description of photons as I understand them. No calculus involved. Most of the mathematics is straight from text books, or slight extensions to them. The wave function equations are just a mathematical format of the physical description shown in the images. Photons of this structure and description are stable and self sustaining. They do not need other properties to describe them.</div><div class="gmail_signature"><br /></div><div class="gmail_signature">Hope this helps.</div><div class="gmail_signature"><br /></div><div class="gmail_signature">Vivian Robinson</div> <br /><p class="airmail_on">On 17 March 2019 at 3:26:52 AM, DataPacRat (<a href="mailto:datapacrat@gmail.com">datapacrat@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>Hello to the members of this list,<br /><br />If you don't mind my asking, would it be possible for any of you to<br />share some short summaries of your approaches and the implications?<br />I'm afraid that I don't have the mathematical chops to truly<br />understand most of what I've been able to skim from the list's<br />archives, but I do write the odd amateur science-fiction story, and I<br />like being able to add physics details most other SF authours don't.<br /><br />For example, I might describe one small part of Chip Akins' ideas as<br />"photons are spiralling ribbons of EM fields, kept together by the<br />strong nuclear force; neutrinos are the same thing, only with a<br />different angle of twisting, and electrons the same but circling<br />around and around". (Which is about as much as I've managed to<br />assemble so far from the PDFs he's released.) I could do something of<br />the same with my superficial understanding of quantized inertia (or,<br />for fun, try to combine QI with Akins' ideas), but I've seen mentions<br />of other approaches in the archives that I haven't been able to track<br />down, let alone start reading.<br /><br />How much can you explain to someone who's forgotten just about all the<br />techniques of calculus?<br /><br /><br />Thank you for your time,<br />--<br />DataPacRat<br />"Does aₘᵢₙ=2c²/Θ ? I don't know, but wouldn't it be fascinating if it were?"<br />_______________________________________________<br />If you no longer wish to receive communication from the Nature of Light and Particles General Discussion List at <a href="mailto:viv@universephysics.com">viv@universephysics.com</a><br /><a href="<a href="http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/viv%40universephysics.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1">http://lists.natureoflightandparticles.org/options.cgi/general-natureoflightandparticles.org/viv%40universephysics.com?unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1</a>"><br />Click here to unsubscribe<br /></a><br /></div></div></span></blockquote></blockquote></div>
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