[General] double photon cycle, subjective v objective realities

Richard Gauthier richgauthier at gmail.com
Sat Jul 2 14:47:59 PDT 2016


Hello Grahame, Vivian and Chip,
    I think we can all help each other by critically examining each other’s particle models and pointing out possible errors. For example, I spotted 2 serious calculational/conceptual errors in Vivian’s electron model which he hasn’t acknowledged yet. The first is in his derivation of the lateral radius of a double-looping-photon electron model as it changes with electron speed, which he claims goes as 1/gamma (in your model the lateral radius of the double-looping photon’s trajectory doesn't change with electron speed, while in my model the lateral radius of the circulating photon’s trajectory decreases as 1/gamma^2 with the electron’s speed). The second significant error is in his derivation of the de Broglie wavelength, using the relativistic energy-momentum equation for the electron and its circulating photon. Can you spot these two errors?  Vivian’s article is attached below.


> On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Dr Grahame Blackwell <grahame at starweave.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chip,
>  
> Yes, I'd be most interested in anything that you bring to the table regarding implications for other aspects of electron behaviour.  It would be great to have a fully rounded (so to speak!) picture of how the cyclic-photon model of the electron fits into the broader picture of its behaviour.
>  
> As a point of detail (not sure if I've said this before), my own perspective doesn't depend at all on the orientation of photon motion within a moving electron - i.e. it needn't be cycling in a plane orthogonal to the electron's own path (i.e. photon need not follow a classically helical path).  My analysis works equally for a photon cycle at any orientation to electron path, or even a complex double-cycle not restricted to a single plane.
>  
> Looking forward to hearing more.
>  
> Best regards,
> Grahame
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Chip Akins <mailto:chipakins at gmail.com>
>> To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion' <mailto:general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [General] double photon cycle, subjective v objective realities
>> 
>> Hi Grahame
>>  
>> Your email was quite thought provoking.  Thank you.
>> I will have to look into how this approach for the electron fits with the size of the electron deduced from scattering experiments and the near perfect spherical scattering statistics for the electron.
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
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