[General] separate the inertial and gravitational aspects of mass

Thu Jun 2 14:53:20 PDT 2016

Chandra,

Nice email! I have some ideas on the question you pose in the last
paragraph. I will gather them sometime. As for your dates: Fresnel: 1818.
You were off by 3 years. Huygens: 1678. Spot on.

Adam

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra <
chandra.roychoudhuri at uconn.edu> wrote:

> Hi Chip:
>
> You certainly have added some novel elements to model “photon” having
> possibly both “transverse” and “longitudinal velocities.
>
> Are there any related experiments?
>
> The field of precision optical engineering is far more advanced than
> theoretical physics, demonstrated through the progress in nano photonics
> and plasmonic photonics. Can you identify something that these optical
> engineers might able to measure and discern something positively?
>
>
>
> Remember, our Knowledge Age, ushered in by laying down global fiber optic
> network, which is driven by laser light from semiconductor devices. None of
> the involved engineers ever tried to propagate light as “indivisible
> quanta”. These fantastic advancements in communications were not held up
> due to our lack of any proper quantum equation to propagate “quantized
> photon”! They are happy that all the precision they need is available from
> Huygens-Fresnel wave propagation integral, presented by Fresnel during the
> first quarter of the nineteenth century (1815?)  using the Huygens
> postulate of secondary wave lets, presented during the third quarter of the
> seventeenth century (1678?).
>
>
>
> The question is as follows:  Why is the HF propagation integral is
> continuing to be so successful even today; but we cannot provide anything
> better mathematical tool to optical engineers with so much knowledge about
> “indivisible light quanta”; even though Huygens postulate of “secondary
> wavelets” resemble some fuzzy-logic, or some educated guess?
>
>
>
> Chandra.
>
>
>
> *From:* General [mailto:general-bounces+chandra.roychoudhuri=
> uconn.edu at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] *On Behalf Of *Chip Akins
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:58 PM
> *To:* 'Hodge John' <jchodge at frontier.com>; 'Nature of Light and Particles
> - General Discussion' <general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [General] separate the inertial and gravitational aspects
> of mass
>
>
>
> Hi John
>
>
>
> I have a few questions regarding your experiment.
>
> What was the wavelength of the laser used? For example, if it was a red
> laser it was probably in the range of 650nm wavelength.  The width of the
> slits? The distance from the laser to the slits and to the target?
>
>
>
> The reason I am asking has to do with the quantization of light.  If we
> assume that Planck’s constant is the quantization of action, and that a
> single photon has spin angular momentum of hbar, then the effective spin
> radius of this construct (photon particle) is the wavelength divided by 2
> pi.
>
>
>
> Then if we assume that transverse waves do indeed travel at the speed of
> light in space, but that there could also be associated longitudinal waves,
> which remain principally undetected by normal instrumentation, then we can
> consider at the following:
>
>
>
> As we study transverse waves in an elastic solid medium we see that the
> velocity of propagation of a transverse wave is:
>
> Where is the propagation velocity of the transverse wave, is the shear
> modulus, and *p* is the density of the medium.
>
> Longitudinal displacements or longitudinal waves simply travel faster in
> every known elastic solid medium.
>
>
>
> Longitudinal propagation velocity is expressed as:
>
> Where is the propagation velocity of the longitudinal wave or
> displacement, and *K* is the compression modulus.
>
> Since both the * K* modulus and modulus are always positive we can see
> that the longitudinal displacement propagation velocity will always be
> faster than the transverse wave velocity: is always larger than
>
>
>
> So I am wondering if the photon is a tightly confined rotational
> transverse wave, with a radius expressed as    which also has a small
> associated longitudinal wave component acting as a "pilot" wave.
>
>
>
> For a red laser the speculated radius of a photon would be 103.45nm so its
> diameter would be 206.9nm.
>
>
>
> Your thoughts?
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* General [
> mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
> <general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Hodge John
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:42 AM
> *To:* general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
> *Subject:* [General] separate the inertial and gravitational aspects of
> mass
>
>
>
> Vivian Robinson:
>
> I suggest the following experiment does separate the inertial and
> gravitational aspects of mass.
>
>
>
> Diffraction experiment and its STOE photon simulation program rejects wave
> models of light http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603
>
>
>
> STOE assumptions that model particle diffraction and that replaces QM
>
> http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1719
>
>
>
> The proposed photon model predicted this experiment. Some of the required
> postulates to make the model match experimental observations are to
> separate the inertial and gravitational mass. No other model of the photon
> or of diffraction fits the observation.
>
>
>
> The diffraction model also explains the “walking drop” observation of Fig.
> 5c in Bush,~J.W.M., 2015, *The new wave of pilot-wave theory*, Physics
> Today, 68(8), 47
>
>
> http://newfos.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/Pilot_Waves_Phys_Today_Aug_2015.pdf
>
> wherein the inertia of the medium allows the wave to reflect and influence
> the drop that caused the wave. Compare Fig. 5c of Bush with Fig. 1 of
> “Diffraction experiment …”
>
>
>
> Hodge
>
>
>
>
>
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