[General] inertia

[Albrecht Giese]

Hello Richard,

thank you for your mail. I still have questions to your explanations:

To para 1):
According to you explanations the circular motion is mainly achieved by 
the fact that the particles are "curling up". Which physical law do you 
have in mind that causes them to curl up? What are the quantitative 
consequences? - You say that there is a "configurational" force which 
controls the internal motion of an electron and a positron. You assume 
that this may come from the Higgs field. I think that this is highly 
speculative as astronomers deny the existence of a Higgs field which is 
strong enough to be an explanation for noticeable forces in elementary 
particles.

To para 2):
The momentum of a photon is h*n y/c, true. But what is the physical 
mechanism causing this momentum? Still not answered.
I believe that my mass mechanism is applicable to the photon. The photon 
has an extension, so it has inertia by the standard mechanism for 
extended objects. And in addition I think that the photon may be 
composed by the same sub-particles ("basic particles") like leptons and 
quarks. The question still open for me is, why the photon moves steadily 
with c. An explanation may be that it moves always into a certain 
direction with respect to its internal set up. On the other hand, the 
fact that the rest mass of the photon is zero is nothing more than a 
mathematical result. Was never measured.

Albrecht



Am Sat, 30 Apr 2016 um 17:22:00 schrieb Richard Gauthier:
> Hello Albrecht,
>     Thank you for your two thoughtful questions.
>
> To try to answer them:
>
> 1) I think it is an incorrect assumption that only a second electric 
> charge or a corresponding permanent field can cause a spin-1/2 charged 
> photon to move in a circular or helical configuration. Have you 
> considered other possible explanations? One I have considered, in the 
> context of e-p production, is that two uncharged spin-1/2 photons of 
> are formed in the process of electron-positron pair production from a 
> spin-1 photon of sufficient energy (greater than 1.022 MeV). At first 
> the two uncharged spin-1/2 photons both move forward together in a 
> kind of unstable equilibrium. One has a negative charge potentiality 
> and the other has a positive charge potentiality, yet both are still 
> neutral. These two uncharged spin-1/2 photons can either then unite 
> with each other to form a spin-1 photon, or they can separate in the 
> presence of a nearby charged nucleus and each curl up, gaining 
> negative and positive charge respectively, as well as rest mass 
> Eo/c^2, and slowing down (as they become an electron and positron) to 
> less than light-speed as they curl up. (Internally these spin-1/2 
> charged photons maintain light-speed c in their forward direction, but 
> their curled-up configurations as a electron and a positron have v < c 
> .) Once they are both fully curled up to form a fully charged electron 
> and positron, they continue to move apart. Now they each have a stable 
> internal equilibrium (because of conservation of electric charge) and 
> they cannot individually unroll (except perhaps virtually) to become 
> an uncharged spin-1/2 photon, and so they remain a stable electron and 
> a stable positron. Their own charged curled-up stable equilibrium 
> maintains them in their curled-up configurations, supplying the 
> necessary configurational force that maintains their circulating 
> motion to form an electron or a positron. This configurational force 
> that maintains each of them curled up would be a non-electrical force. 
> Perhaps this configurational force that maintains the electron and the 
> positron curled up with rest mass and moving at less than light-speed 
> c, comes from the Higgs field.
>     When an electron and positron meet, they may first form a 
> positronium atom. Then they both uncurl and unite to form an unstable 
> neutral particle which decays immediately into two or three spin-1 
> photons, in the process of electron-positron annihilation.
>
> 2) Why does the spin-1/2 charged photon have momentum? you ask.  It is 
> because it is a photon with momentum hv/c . My model of the spin-1/2 
> charged photon is similar to my internally transluminal model of an 
> uncharged photon, except  that the spin-1/2 charged photon makes two 
> helical loops instead of one per photon wavelength, and the spin-1/2 
> charged photon model's helical radius is 1/2 that of the helical 
> radius of a spin-1 photon model , being R=lambda/4pi instead of 
> lambda/2 pi. The uncurled transluminal spin-1/2 uncharged photon model 
> curls up nicely into a curled-up double-looping spin-1/2 charged 
> photon model of an electron. You can read about my superluminal 
> uncharged photon model at 
> https://www.academia.edu/4429810/Transluminal_Energy_Quantum_Models_of_the_Photon_and_the_Electron or 
> I can e-mail you a copy. I have only talked about my current model of 
> the superluminal spin-1/2 charged photon on the “Nature of Light and 
> Particles” e-list during the past year.
>
> I hope these possible explanations of the spin-1/2 charged-photon 
> model are helpful. I don’t think that you have a photon model yet that 
> is consistent with your two-particle electron model, in terms of e-p 
> production and e-p annihilation.
>
> The figure below, which I included in this e-list some months ago, 
> shows a curled-up spin 1/2 charged photon forming a resting electron 
> (top graphic) and at different increasing relativistic speeds (lower 
> graphics). The green line is the double-looping helical trajectory of 
> the circulating charged photon forming the electron, while the red 
> line is the trajectory of the superluminal energy quantum of the 
> spin-1/2 photon model. The superluminal energy quantum in the resting 
> electron moves on the surface of a mathematical horn torus. As the 
> speed v of the electron model increases, the radius of the green 
> helical trajectory decreases as 1/gamma^2 , while  the radius of the 
> red trajectory of the superluminal quantum decreases as 1/gamma.
>
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