[General] On particle radius

Dr Grahame Blackwell grahame at starweave.com
Mon Jan 9 14:10:36 PST 2017


Hi Albrecht (et al),

I am in full agreement with your analysis of the orbital rate of the formative energy of an electron in motion.  In short, I agree with your derivation of the Lorentz factor as applied in SR; I also agree that this factor is unchanged if the electron moves in any arbitary direction; I can further confirm that it is likewise unchanged (cycle period of moving particle: cycle period of static particle) no matter WHAT the nature or complexity of the cyclical flow-pattern that generates the particle in question.

The resulting extended time-interval per cycle of course indicates the rate of 'time-flow', since time-effects must necessarily be propagated by the flow around, as well as between, particles; this gives a clear reason for time dilation as widely confirmed by experiment.  This (a) removes the need for some metaphysical property of the universe in order to explain time dilation; and (b) confirms the invariant radius of the cyclic flow forming a particle (since the Lorentz factor is given by helical flow ONLY if that helical flow is unchanged with respect to radius) - a clear example of empirical evidence supporting that invariance.

I also find you observations on the conventional view of electron radius, in contrast to your own work and that of Schrödinger, most interesting.

Thank you,
Grahame


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Albrecht Giese 
  To: general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 9:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [General] On particle radius


  Sorry, a little error below:

  The period of the motion in the electron will not be reduced but will be extended following T' = T * sqrt(1/(1--v2/c2))

  Albrecht




  Am 09.01.2017 um 21:31 schrieb Albrecht Giese:

    Hi Chip, hi All,


    the problem of the limitation of the internal speed in the electron is not complicated. It is the cause if relativistic dilation.

    If an electron is a particle which is built by something which permanently orbits at c, then in case of the motion of the electron, this internal speed will continue to be c with respect to the external frame. If now the electron moves into an axial direction with respect to the orbit at  speed v then the circular motion will turn into a helical motion. If the motion on the helix is still c then the period T of this motion will be reduced to some T' as given by Pythagoras: T' = T * sqrt(1/(1--v2/c2)), which by the way is the Lorentz factor of SRT.

    If the electron moves into an arbitrary direction with respect to the orbit, then the calculation of more complicated but has the same result. I can give it if there is a demand.


    To the radius of the electron itself (and I must apologize that I did not fully follow the preceding discussion:

    If the elementary charge e0 in the electron orbits at c then the magnetic moment of the electron is classically µ = i*pi*R2  where we insert for the current i = e0 * c/(2pi*R) . Then we get µ = c * e0* R/2 . Now we can use the known value of the magnetic moment µ to determine the radius R. The result of this is R = 3.86 * 10-13 m. 


    This result is in conflict with main stream as the official physics says that the electron is point-like (R<10-18 m). But it is in agreement with Erwin Schrödinger. In his famous paper in which Schrödinger evaluated the Dirac function, his result for the "size of the electron" was "roughly about" R = 4 * 10-13 m. Schrödinger came to this result by pure QM considerations. And then he makes a funny statement. He says in his paper: "We know that the electron is point-like. So, there must be an error in my calculation. But I cannot find this error". - I think that not Schrödinger was in error but main stream is in error. And this early result of Schrödinger confirms the classical calculation which I have shown above.

    Does this help the discussion?

    Albrecht


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