[General] Role of observer, a deeper path to introspection

[Wolfgang Baer]

Chandra:

Unfortunately the TED talk does not work on my machine but the 
transcript is available and Anl Seth states what many people studying 
the human psyche as well as eastern philosophy have said for centuries , 
Yes we are Hallucinating reality and our physics is built upon that 
hallucination, but it works so well, or does it?

However  as Don Hoffmancognitive scientist UC Irvine  contends 
https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is

What we see is like the icons on a computer screen, a file icon may only 
be a symbol of what is real on the disk, but these icons as well as the 
"hallucinations" are connected to some reality and we must take them 
seriously. Deleting the icon also deletes the disk which may have 
disastrous consequences.

For our discussion group it means we can take Albrechts route and try to 
understand the universe and photons first based upon the idea that it is 
independently real and then solve the human consciousness problem or we 
can take the opposite approach and rebuild a  physics without the 
independent physical reality assumption and see if we cannot build out a 
truly macroscopic quantum theory. Concentrating on finding the 
mechanisms of connection between the Hallucination and the reality is my 
approach. I think the constant speed of light assumption is one of the 
first pillars that must fall. If there is such a constant it should in 
my opinion be interpreted as the speed of Now , a property we 
individually apply to all our observations.

best

Wolf

Dr. Wolfgang Baer
Research Director
Nascent Systems Inc.
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E-mail wolf at NascentInc.com

On 7/23/2017 2:44 PM, Roychoudhuri, Chandra wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues:
>
> Lately there has been continuing discussion on the role of observer 
> and the reality. I view that to be healthy.
>
> We must guide ourselves to understand and model the universe without 
> human mind shaping the cosmic system and its working rules. This 
> suggestion comes from the fact that our own logic puts the universe to 
> be at least 13 billion years old, while we, in the human form, have 
> started evolving barely 5 million years ago (give or take).
>
> However, we are not smart enough to determine a well-defined and 
> decisive path, as yet. Our search must accommodate perpetual iteration 
> of thinking strategy as we keep on advancing. This is well justified 
> in the following TED-talk.
>
> Enjoy:
>
> https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2017-07-22&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_image
>
> Chandra.
>
>
>
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