[General] Velocity of Gravitation

Thu Feb 21 08:31:13 PST 2019

Dear Richard, Albrecht and all:

As all of you are aware, I do subscribe to a universal stationary Complex Tension Field (CTF), holding 100% of the energy of the universe. This is definitely a strong and a causal mode of thinking to revitalize Einstein’s dream of a Unified Field Theory. However, we must keep our thinking anchored to hard causality supported by evidences.

     Note that the evidences will keep evolving as our technology and knowledge keep advancing. No experiment can ever give us complete information about any interactants we study in our man-made instruments. Because we do not know complete information about any of the interactants as yet. This does not mean that we should become followers of ancient spiritualism. Our old tradition of math and evidence based science is the best way to keep advancing  Both strengthen each other’s’ built in causality. This is the right path. Only, we must re-introduce Interaction Process mapping Epistemology (IPM-E) to keep advancing in iterative steps. No knowledge is final knowledge.

EM waves are perpetually propagating harmonic undulation of this CTF. The elementary particles are torus- or doughnut-like self-looped (localized and self-resonant and hence quantum mechanical) localized harmonic undulations. This is why Schrodinger’s equation works so beautifully. Our universe, causally speaking, cannot support any plane waves. The concept violates conservation of energy. The exponential harmonic term in Schrodinger’s equation represents the “localized torus oscillation”. This concept also eliminates the need for continuing with the non-causal proposition of “wave-particle duality”. Interaction Process Mapping Epistemology (IPM-E), which underscores the basic purpose behind our drive to understand nature and survive. IPM-E also makes QM more realistic than the Copenhagen Interpretation has allowed it to be.

    I have described a couple of potential Rb-atomic beam diffraction experiments to validate that: (i) Our basic math is correct and causal. (ii) The observable superposition effect is causal due to joint LOCAL interaction between the detecting molecule and multiple superposed stimulating signals. (iii) Dark fringes in superposition experiments do not indicate “non-arrival” of EM waves and/or particles that are used to carry out the diffraction experiments. As our math correctly formulates, for a double-slit, both the physical signals arrive simultaneously, but out of phase with each other, and nulls the each other’s  stimulation on the local detecting element.  They remain undetected due to non-transformation of the detecting element

      For the 2nd attachment, feel free to jump to Section 2-11 for proposed Rb-atom diffraction experiments. I am open to collaborate with any lab that already has Rb-atom diffraction set up. The third attachment (a short conference summary) underscores that the acceptance of causality built into our correct math, contain much deeper physical processes that are going on than we have been caring to appreciate. We are beaning kept blinded by the non-causal postulate of “wave-particle duality”.

     Duality is our ignorance. It has been retarding us from investigate any new knowledge.

Sincerely,

Chandra.

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Subject: Re: [General] Velocity of Gravitation

Hello Albrecht and all,

    Yes, if the levitation (anti-gravity) demonstration in Michael's video holds up, I think it will be a new physics world. Michael Tellinger has also done a lot of work studying ancient archeological sites, particularly in South Africa where he lives, where people may have used this anti-gravity approach using toruses and cones to move large stones. He is also into studying a possible alternative history of the human race.

        Richard

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 4:57 AM, Albrecht Giese <phys at a-giese.de<mailto:phys at a-giese.de>> wrote:

>

> Hello all,

>

> thank you, Richard, for the link. I have looked into the video of Michael Tellinger, and I have found surprising thoughts. Examples:

>

> 1) Electrons are toroidal shapes of fields; and fields are in his

> understanding primary things, not caused by kind of charges

> 2) The most important fields are magnetic fields; they are caused by

> sounds; such sounds seem to fill the whole universe

> 3) The torus shape of these fields originates the shapes of many

> objects in nature; for instance are the shapes of flowers caused by

> these sound-created shapes of magnetic toroidal fields

> 4) Also cone-shaped  objects are frequent in nature; for instance our

> brain has a lot of cone-shaped components; and all cones in the world

> seem to be connected in a way and have a kind of communication with

> each other

> 5) He shows a toroidal stone in his presentation; which looks like a simple stone but is able to do funny things like making computers in the vicinity to crash.

>

> Is this a new physical world?

>

> Albrecht (quite surprised about this)

>

>

> Am 19.02.2019 um 06:44 schrieb Richard Gauthier:

>> Hello all,

>>     Here’s an interesting website including a you-tube presentation proposing an alternative view of gravity as a magneto-electric phenomenon, which would have revolutionary implications if its practical anti-gravity demonstrations can be confirmed. It’s at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmichaeltellinger.com%2Fmichaels-articles%2Fparticle-wave-duality%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cchandra.roychoudhuri%40uconn.edu%7C127fbda03303429c938a08d697bd52ba%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C1%7C636863236726511957&sdata=BekDjW61ax7kMdSjGPQG2uLzCB%2F33lWshxI6vJtmFnQ%3D&reserved=0 . He  proposes torus models of electrons and atoms based on magneto-electric resonance effects.

>>        Richard

>>

>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Wolfgang Baer <wolf at nascentinc.com<mailto:wolf at nascentinc.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> List and Ludwik:

>>>

>>> questions regarding the  speed of gravity is closely associated to ones model of an "ether"

>>>

>>> Ludwik Kostro has written an excellent history of Einsteins thinking

>>> regarding the nature of space

>>>

>>> And with this E-mail I am hoping he will share his "Einstein and the ether" book with us.

>>>

>>> I do not believe any questions of gravity speed can be addressed without taking a stand on the ether question.

>>>

>>> As some of you may know My own hypothesis is that we must include the observer directly in physics and I think a good case can be made that we conscious systems are fundamentally a space of activity i.e. a self containing ether. That questions of  the speed of light or gravity are directly related to the speed of our individual speed of Now. Having read Ludwik's book I believe Einstein came to the same conclusion but simply could not let go of the independent of ourselves  space concept.

>>>

>>> wolf

>>>

>>> Dr. Wolfgang Baer

>>> Research Director

>>> Nascent Systems Inc.

>>> tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432

>>> E-mail wolf at NascentInc.com<mailto:wolf at NascentInc.com>

>>>

>>>

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