[General] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Velocity of Gravitation

Fri Feb 22 09:21:09 PST 2019

Hello Wolf and all,
  I would be happy to invite Michael Tellinger here (I’ve never communicated with him before but his website and demo about anti-gravity intrigued me) if you think that would be useful.
      Richard

> On Feb 21, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Nascent Support <support at nascentinc.com> wrote:
> 
> Albrecht and Richard:
> 
> The link  https://michaeltellinger.com/michaels-articles/particle-wave-duality/ <https://michaeltellinger.com/michaels-articles/particle-wave-duality/> 
> Is for an article , which in my opinion is a bit too conspiracy and anti- establishment for its own sake
> 
> I do like "“The fractal-multi-dimentional-toroidal-nature of reality”." but quite frankly any visualization of physics built of cyclic coordinates,
>  like Heisenberg's quantum theory would be a multidimensional toroid.
> 
> The video in the video has a demonstration of a floating "something" that is very curious. Anyone know how this was done? 
> Or is there a paper that describes what is going on, or any verification experiment.
> 
> Frankly Tellinger sounds like a con-man , but so do a lot of people and someone may have something.
> 
> 
> Magnetis: A question that has been on my mind since reading Sciama's explanation of inertia 
> 
> If Magnetism and or Inertia is a phenomena based on relative velocity is there an effect that decreases as 1/r rather than 1/(r2) which sciama hints at.
> 
> What makes it reasonable is that the angular distance decreases as 1/r so an effect that is related to a displacement rather than a radial distance from an observer could decrease by 1/r
> 
> Wolfgang Baer
> 
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> Subject:	Fwd: Re: [General] Velocity of Gravitation
> Date:	Thu, 21 Feb 2019 10:57:38 -0800
> From:	Wolfgang Baer <wolf at nascentinc.com> <mailto:wolf at nascentinc.com>
> Organization:	Nascent Systems Inc.
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> Subject:	Re: [General] Velocity of Gravitation
> Date:	Wed, 20 Feb 2019 13:57:13 +0100
> From:	Albrecht Giese <phys at a-giese.de> <mailto:phys at a-giese.de>
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> Hello all,
> 
> thank you, Richard, for the link. I have looked into the video of 
> Michael Tellinger, and I have found surprising thoughts. Examples:
> 
> 1) Electrons are toroidal shapes of fields; and fields are in his 
> understanding primary things, not caused by kind of charges
> 2) The most important fields are magnetic fields; they are caused by 
> sounds; such sounds seem to fill the whole universe
> 3) The torus shape of these fields originates the shapes of many objects 
> in nature; for instance are the shapes of flowers caused by these 
> sound-created shapes of magnetic toroidal fields
> 4) Also cone-shaped  objects are frequent in nature; for instance our 
> brain has a lot of cone-shaped components; and all cones in the world 
> seem to be connected in a way and have a kind of communication with each 
> other
> 5) He shows a toroidal stone in his presentation; which looks like a 
> simple stone but is able to do funny things like making computers in the 
> vicinity to crash.
> 
> Is this a new physical world?
> 
> Albrecht (quite surprised about this)
> 
> 
> Am 19.02.2019 um 06:44 schrieb Richard Gauthier:
> > Hello all,
> >      Here’s an interesting website including a you-tube presentation proposing an alternative view of gravity as a magneto-electric phenomenon, which would have revolutionary implications if its practical anti-gravity demonstrations can be confirmed. It’s at https://michaeltellinger.com/michaels-articles/particle-wave-duality/ <https://michaeltellinger.com/michaels-articles/particle-wave-duality/> . He  proposes torus models of electrons and atoms based on magneto-electric resonance effects.
> >         Richard
> >
> >> On Feb 16, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Wolfgang Baer <wolf at nascentinc.com> <mailto:wolf at nascentinc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> List and Ludwik:
> >>
> >> questions regarding the  speed of gravity is closely associated to ones model of an "ether"
> >>
> >> Ludwik Kostro has written an excellent history of Einsteins thinking regarding the nature of space
> >>
> >> And with this E-mail I am hoping he will share his "Einstein and the ether" book with us.
> >>
> >> I do not believe any questions of gravity speed can be addressed without taking a stand on the ether question.
> >>
> >> As some of you may know My own hypothesis is that we must include the observer directly in physics and I think a good case can be made that we conscious systems are fundamentally a space of activity i.e. a self containing ether. That questions of  the speed of light or gravity are directly related to the speed of our individual speed of Now. Having read Ludwik's book I believe Einstein came to the same conclusion but simply could not let go of the independent of ourselves  space concept.
> >>
> >> wolf
> >>
> >> Dr. Wolfgang Baer
> >> Research Director
> >> Nascent Systems Inc.
> >> tel/fax 831-659-3120/0432
> >> E-mail wolf at NascentInc.com <mailto:wolf at NascentInc.com>
> >>
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