[General] [SPAM?] Re: research papers

[Adam K]

Hi Chip,

I think I've been missing quite a few of these messages -- they are going
to spam or maybe I am not on all of the lists? What you said about
electrons and spherical waves piqued my interest. I only saw it scrolling
way down some messages, so I never got the original email. I'm curious what
you mean by this because my own thoughts have been going in this direction
lately.

Adam

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Chip Akins <chipakins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Al
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> Thank you.
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> Of course I too think that entanglement is an illusion caused by
> misunderstanding.
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> There seems to be a particular psychology among some physicists which
> motivates a search for the fantastic, rather than the solid demonstrable
> and explainable facts.
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> It seems that once again in human history we find ourselves in the
> position where pervasive dogma clouds our understanding of nature.
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> Chip
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> *From:* General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=
> gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] *On Behalf Of *
> af.kracklauer at web.de
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 12:23 PM
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> *To:* general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
> *Cc:* 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion' <
> general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [General] [SPAM?] Re: research papers
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> Hi Chip:
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> Some thoughts below:
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> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015 um 15:57 Uhr
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> *Von:* "Chip Akins" <chipakins at gmail.com>
> *An:* "'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'" <
> general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [General] [SPAM?] Re: research papers
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> Hi Al
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> No, I was not referring to A. O. Barut's work but rather to the recent
> work of Robert Close and Joy Christian. I don’t think I have seen A. O.
> Barut's work. Will look at it.
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> Al: Been a while since I read JC!
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> Question Al: When you say, “The "locality loophole" always struck me
> ridiculously far-fetched!” Do you mean that you feel that “entanglement” is
> real?
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> Al:  Absolutely not!  I hold that "entanglement" is a totally erronous
> idea, feed by two basic errors: 1) von Neumann's 'Projection Hypothsis',
> and Bell's faulty inequality derviation (a la Edwin Jaynes).  The result:
>  all entanglement can be accounted for by a 'common cause' just like for
> ordinary correlation (which is what it is).  What I meant is that,
> collaborating detectors, as if they were politicians (or lacking a physical
> means to communicate superlumnally) is just wild sci-fi!  Something done by
> those mystifcating physics.
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> Al : Best
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> Chip
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> *From:* General [
> mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
> <general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *af.kracklauer at web.de
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 9:43 AM
> *To:* general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org
> *Cc:* 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion' <
> general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [General] [SPAM?] Re: research papers
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> Hi Chip et al.
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> Of course I endorse your two first sentences. Regarding the third: are you
> refering to A. O. Barut's earily 90's paper in Found. Phys.?
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> Also:  spin & point particles:  Logically a point particle cannot exhibit
> spin or any kind of rotation about is axis (using that term with
> reservation) .  However, it could gyrate.  In fact if it does
> Zitterbewegung in a magnetic field, seems to me it would have to be induced
> to gyrate, albeit randomly.  Nevertheless, an ensemble would tend, under
> the mutual interaction, to seek an energy stable point such that the right
> and left gyration ration would be proportional to the Boltzmann energy
> distributio function of temperature, etc.
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> BTW, the Delft group's claims are inline with the standard folklore among
> quantum opticians over the past 20 years.  The "locality loophole" always
> struck me rediculously far fetched!
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> Regards,  Al
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> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 30. Oktober 2015 um 14:01 Uhr
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