[General] reply to Albrecht's email

Hodge John jchodge at frontier.com
Tue Apr 19 10:30:23 PDT 2016


Albrecht:TheSTOE model like your model has been in development for a long time (over 10years). “Universeaccording to the STOE” http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1648give a summary just before the inertia and structure papers. Short version:Hods are 2D surfaces that forces zero plenum density at the surface. The plenumhas properties and a place in physics of “space” of Genral Relativity, ether ofold, and quantum vacuum (or the olde concept of the medium of the “subquantumfluctuations”  of Bohm - Vigier). Thehods attract plenum to form matter. Light is a column of hods in thediffraction experiments.  The Equivalence Principle isa derived (not based) proportionality relation between the number of hods in achunk of matter (gravitational potential) and the captured plenum (inertialpotential). “If an observer carries a charged particle with him, it willradiate at acceleration, but not at rest in a gravitational field. So, both canbe distinguished.” I’m not familiar with an experiment that shows this. Aparticle, charged of not, will radiate energy in an accelerated field (thebasis of the gravitational wave experiment?) If charge is a radiation (such asindividual hods - future paper) then charge is “radiated”. Accelerationprovides a change in the radiation.  Gravitation results from the varying speed of light?Interesting. (rather than gravitation causing a varying speed of light - myview). Have you an experiment in mind that distinguishes these views. The STOEversion of diffraction depends on the plenum field (gravitational field varyingthe speed of light). When it gets to the equations, I suppose they can beinversions of each other. So, which is simpler or is there an experiment? “Influences” - How? Action at a distance? Modifying a field?How does it modify the gravitational field of mass ? Well, we each pursue our model. Do you have a new experimentin mind to distinguish your model from others?Hodge 

    On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 12:52 PM, Albrecht Giese <genmail at a-giese.de> wrote:
 

  Dear John Hodge,
 
 thank you for your comment. I have looked into the first one of the papers you have given in your mail. I have the impression that I should have followed the preceding discussion about your model, I missed that as there were too many other activities at my place. To understand your model I should at least have to understand what Hods  are and what the plenum is. Without this knowledge I cannot follow sufficiently.
 
 Anyway, I have two comments to your first paper. 1.) You base your model, as you write, to the Equivalence Principle. As far as I remember, we have discussed this topic here already. To my knowledge the Equivalence Principle (i.e. the equivalence of gravitation and acceleration) is falsified. One example: If an observer carries a charged particle with him, it will radiate at acceleration, but not at rest in a gravitational field. So, both can be distinguished. 2.) I have a completely different understanding of gravitation: In my understanding it is not the force no. 4 as main stream physics assumes. On the contrary, it is no force at all but a refraction process, caused by the varying speed of light in a gravitational field, which influences the internal oscillation in elementary particles and causes them to be accelerated towards the source of the gravitational field.
 
 This is for today.
 
 Best regards
 Albrecht
 
 
 Am 10.04.2016 um 10:50 schrieb Hodge John:
  
    Albrecht: I like your emphasis on experiment. The STOE model suggests the extent characteristic is where the inertia resides. The STOE posits the plenum (like “space” of GR) and hods. The Hods are 2 dimensional and causes gravitational forces. The plenum has the extent and inertia. A photon is a column of hods with plenum between the hods. Hence, the extent is where the inertia is. Inertia according to the STOE http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1676    Further the diffraction experiment is a new experiment that is easy to do for yourself. The STOE photon model is the only model not rejected by this experiment. I urge you to do the experiment.  Diffraction experiment and its STOE photon simulation program rejects wave models of light http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1603    I think this may be the experiment you are seeking. It rejects wave models. Because light and electrons display diffraction effects, the electron rather than a photon in the experiment should work the same. I think your model will fail the experiment. But then it should be done.    Papers referenced in this paper explain how the photon works. The extent of the photon and its inertia and gravitational forces are needed for the math to work. The math works and no other model is consistent with this experiment result.    When an electron and positron are collided, only photons result. This, I think, supports the idea that electrons are composed of photons. Structure and spin of the neutrino, electron, and positron http://intellectualarchive.com/?link=item&id=1694    Hodge    
  
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