[General] HA: Gravity

[Dr Grahame Blackwell]

Wolf et al,

You will note that my proposal re gravity in my recently-circulated paper, as the 'extended being' of spatially distributed entities that we (with our limited senses) perceive as localised 'particles', implicitly proposes that the 'propagation speed of gravity' is in fact infinite - since there is in actuality NO propagation involved, the 'effects of gravity' are in fact the consequences of those distributed entities ALREADY being present to some degree at every point in the cosmos.  I.e. 'everything is everywhere', to put it in simple terms; as a 'physical massive object' moves (again, a simplistic term), the WHOLE of its extended being moves with it and is immediately in a position to manifest 'gravitational' effects of that object consistent with its changed position, no matter how far spatially removed (more simplistic concepts!) from what we perceive as the 'massive object' itself.

This points to a far deeper truth - that 'locality' and 'time' are both over-simplifications of deeper concepts, foisted on us by an evolutionary process that's more interested that we (a) breed, (b) find lunch and (c) don't become lunch - than it is in us fathoming the underlying principles of cosmic structure.

Best,
Grahame
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wolfgang Baer 
  To: af.kracklauer at web.de ; phys at a-giese.de ; general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 11:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [General] HA: Gravity


  Al:

  I'm too concerned with gravity and charge as the fundamental characteristics of mater in classic physics to appreciate deeper explanations until the discrepancies or simpler questions have been answered.

  Is not Einstein's connection between gravity and space time based on the use of EM wave phase measurements that define space time? In other words masses interact with charges and EM propagation so that the definition of a meter and a second with which we measure space and time are the cause of the warping.

  Even more important for me right now is the question of the speed of gravity. I now had more of a chance to read Jefimenko's Gravitation and Cogravitation which Al recommended, where he expands on the idea that the  equations correcting Newton's look more like EM with a gravitational scalar and vector potential and a Lorenz like force replacing newtons.  In his chapter 20 he points out that the 43 seconds of arc precession of Mercury rather than being a proof of Einstein's theory is actually a cause for questioning the validity of Einstein's equations,  Because Gerber's formula for the 43secnds was based upon planetary calculations based upon Newton's Action at a distance i.e. gravity goes the speed of infinity. Jefimenko points out that if Newton's theory was wrong and gravity is not instantaneous than if Einstein's theory explaning somthing wrong (the 43sec precession) is wrong and Einstein's theory coming up with 43 seconds actually proves Einstein's theory is wrong. Jefimenko calculates the value of the precession from his theory is 14 arc sec. 


  If gravity propagates instantly we are talking about a  completely different beast than Einstein's theory, and trying to explain an error that is assumed correct just leads to more errors although the errors may be self consistent.

  Wolf


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