[General] charged photons

Chip Akins chipakins at gmail.com
Sat Aug 19 06:10:08 PDT 2017


Hi Andrew

 

I have been thinking about you recently. Some of the research I have been doing reminded me of some of the things you suggested earlier about the nature of the photon and electron.

 

Once you talked about how it appears that an electron is made of a “rectified” half of a photon.

I have come to a similar conclusion, but got there from a completely different approach.

If you are interested please read the attached paper.

 

Warmest Regards

 

 

Hi All

 

Attached is a paper on electric charge. It approaches the subject from a completely different perspective.

Please comment.

 

Chip

 

From: General [mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Meulenberg
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 3:40 AM
To: Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion <general at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org>
Subject: Re: [General] charged photons

 

Dear John,

I look forward to your new paper. If it is based on a time-dependent model, then it could address: several problems with the 'common' interpretation of QM, Wilczek's concept of sequestration, and my view of phase transitions rather than quantum jumps.

Andrew M.

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:03 AM, John Williamson <John.Williamson at glasgow.ac.uk <mailto:John.Williamson at glasgow.ac.uk> > wrote:

Hello Richard,

I think the mechanism for photon radiation from an electron is an overlap of a specific field configuration with an internal electron wave-function. The electron wave-function contains both mass-like and field-like components. If one overlaps this with a specific field configuration - equal and perpendicular (but static) electric and magnetic fields, the resultant cancels the mass like terms and the result is a copy of the original wave-function, but at lower energy, plus is a PROPAGATING pure field part of the resultant. the propagating part is quantised if the emitting charge is quantised (which it usually is).  The reverse process is also possible - propagating field converted to localised energy. That is the internal electron wave-function acts as a generator or absorber of photons. This process is described, though not very well, in my first SPIE paper. There is also a (much better explained) version nearly ready to submit. Will copy this to the group when I send it off.

Regards, John.


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From: General [general-bounces+john.williamson=glasgow.ac.uk at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org <mailto:glasgow.ac.uk at lists.natureoflightandparticles.org> ] on behalf of Richard Gauthier [richgauthier at gmail.com <mailto:richgauthier at gmail.com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:53 AM
To: Andrew Meulenberg
Cc: Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion; Hans Montanus
Subject: Re: [General] charged photons

Hello Andrew, John W and all,

 

    Andrew, thanks for the link. A Weyl fermion, though not the same as a spin-1/2 charged photon, could be a step in this direction, since a Weyl fermion is a massless chiral fermion. It also has not been detected as a separate fundamental particle.

 

     By the way, a new colleague Hans Montanus wrote to me recently “For all the photon models for the electron, always the question raises to me: how can photon be radiated off from an accelerating electron? If the electron is a circling (or double circling in the toroidal model) photon, then it rather is a photon radiated off from an accelerating (the circling photon as a whole) photon. Similarly, pair creation would mean two circling photons coming of from a single (usual, non circling) photon. Do you know if there are models for such processes?”

 

     Do you have any thoughts on these questions about radiation of a photon from an accelerated circling photon, and pair creation from a single non-circling photon?

 

         Richard

 

On Aug 1, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Andrew Meulenberg <mules333 at gmail.com <mailto:mules333 at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Dear Richard,

We have demonstrated experimentally that photons can exhibit fermionic as well as bosonic natures. The charged-photon model, as a transient during the transition between photon and lepton pair, can be supported theoretically as well. It may be possible to use additional concepts to support your model:


http://www.nature.com/news/big-bang-gravitational-effect-observed-in-lab-crystal-1.22338

 

The Weyl Fermion, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyl_semimetal), as a charged, massless, particle, might be worth exploring in that context. 

I don't have time to explore the concept myself right now; but, I would be interested in your comments, if you (or others) do get the opportunity to look at it.

Andrew M.

 

 

 


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