[General] Topics

Sat Mar 28 10:00:46 PDT 2015

Andrew, Chip, (and Mary, Rachel), and All others: Please, remember that SPIE
has already announced the discussion as an well-defined topic:

"Are electrons oscillating photons or oscillations of the vacuum itself?"  

We need to remain focused on generating content directly addressing this
issue. Of course, "Photon < --  > Electron", debate can actually cover all
of physics! So, we should remain focused on bringing out all physics issues
that are presented as directly relevant to the announced discussion topic. 

We just need to keep on iterating and refining the discussion sub-topics
relevant to "Photon < --  > Electron", such that most of the important
physics issues, being promoted by different members, logically connects to
the announced topic.

Here is a possible suggestions to accommodate as much as possible within the
currently accepted papers:

I would suggest that individual members of this group drafts their complete
manuscripts as soon as possible and then start refining them based on the
web discussions going on; citing  properly the ideas of other members.

Ideas that does not fit into the planned papers (also to be presented in the
regular program) should become the subject of a set of new papers authored
by groups and individuals. This, we should start thinking planning actively
between now and the time of conference. 

Remember that SPIE has already declared regular papers are due by the
conference start time. We can push that to the end of August, at best! And
the "NEW" discussion generated papers must be submitted latest by the end of
September, if not earlier. We should take these deadlines as absolute in our
minds. SPIE publishes many proceedings that are available on-site; the rest
by September-October. SPIE would not accept these delayed dead-lines as
officially accepted! 

Sincerely,

Chandra.

From: General
[mailto:general-bounces+chandra=phys.uconn.edu at lists.natureoflightandparticl
es.org] On Behalf Of Chip Akins
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:00 AM
To: 'Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion'
Subject: [General] Topics

Hi Andrew

Some suggested topics.

1.      The nature of time

2.      The nature of space

3.      The properties and structure for photons.

4.      The speed of light

5.      The properties and structure of an electron.

6.      Confinement of a photon to create an electron

7.      Particle Spin

8.      Entanglement, Pilot waves, hidden variable theory with non-commuting
variables,

9.      Pair production, electrons from photons, annihilation, photons from
electrons.

Chip

From: General
[mailto:general-bounces+chipakins=gmail.com at lists.natureoflightandparticles.
org] On Behalf Of Andrew Meulenberg
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:36 AM
To: Nature of Light and Particles - General Discussion
Subject: [General] Post Deadline! papers

Dear Friends,

It looks as if Chandra has found an option within the SPIE framework that
will allow us to proceed in a semi-organized manner. Let us take advantage
of that. We also need to take advantage of our volunteers and help them as
much as possible.

Mary (Dr. Mary Fletcher and wife of Bob Hudgins) and Rachel (my wife, a very
quick learner) have volunteered to try and put together, in some form, a
presentation poster of the many people and positions of this 'group'. They
will not be able to read all of the email exchanges and extract the
necessary (and filter out the unnecessary) comments of the group. They will
need pointed inputs. I have volunteered to help them get started. To be
successful, this effort will required each member of the group to contribute
their own position (even if they are not planning on attending the
conference itself).

This group is a bunch of volunteers already. However, we are all, by our
natures, independent and 'mavericks' (and maybe over- committed). Trying to
organize an effort involving something that all of us hold dear will not be
easy. We can start with a few steps. You can:

1.	Identify if you will be able to attend the conference or not. We can
post (& update) a probable list of attendees and titles of any papers
submitted (accepted) on the website. Submit to subject: 'attendance'
2.	submit an individual position statement into the subject thread to
be labeled 'positions'. It can be updated as new topics are discussed &
integrated.
3.	identify topics for 'workshops' that you would be interested in
attending. Submit to subject: 'topics'
4.	Volunteer to chair specific (or any of the) small workshops and to
present (on the last morning) & to write up (within 2 weeks of the meeting)
the meeting action/results/conclusions/etc. Submit to subject: 'volunteers'

Thank you,

Andrew

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:18 AM, chandra < <mailto:chandra at phys.uconn.edu>
chandra at phys.uconn.edu> wrote:

Dear Friends:

I am delighted to see that our discussions are heading towards defining a
fruitful platform. As Martin has done; each of us need to unambiguously
define our position pertaining to fundamental postulates ("accepted
beliefs"); which are at the root of our individual theories for the
discussion, "Electron <--> Photon". This will help us down select and define
a very clear set of discussion-points that would be possible to carry out
within the 3-hour time we have on the Thursday morning.

Of course, we will be able to advance this discussion quite a bit over this
web-saved-emails, if all of us quickly define your positions regarding the
fundamental postulates behind the theories that we believe in and we are
using to advance your current models for electrons (photons). Then our
volunteer editors  can collect and group them. Then we can collectively
iterate a few times and then we finalize the discussion-focal points. If we
do this soon, we will have time to even re-assess whether we have succeeded
in down selecting the best set of discussion issues while email-based
discussion keeps on advancing.

Remember, even though ours is  "Special Conference" granted by SPIE; we
still need to conform to its basic rules behind the publication of SPIE
proceedings. Proceeding papers should be between 6 to 15 pages long, and
never to exceed 20-pages. All papers in the proceeding must have assigned
conference numbers. Obviously, our "discussion papers" do not have numbers;
as we have not submitted abstracts for these papers yet.

Here is a possible solution. My discussion with SPIE indicates that SPIE
will be happy to assign paper numbers like post deadline! Papers; if we edit
and group the output of our discussions into well-selected set of papers
(between 6 to 20 pages) and authored by appropriate set of discussion
participants. If all of you "sign up to this approach"; then we need to
pro-actively organize the discussions-points and createTENTATIVE discussion
groups who will author specific discussion-papers. "Tentative" implies that
we should be able to re-organize our collective authorships, if necessary,
as we finalize the separation of discussion outcomes into a well-defined set
of papers.

Are all of you willing to organize our discussions issues with this mode of
publication by several sub-groups, yet to be defined?

Chandra. 

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